Bernard Hopkins is Not Rushing To Fight Again, If at All

[Mr. Fantastic]

lmao...funny how nobody mentions the fact that taylor was supposed to be too green for hopkins, yet hopkins lost to him 2x.

jones, calzaghe, taylor. funny how hopkins lost to all of these fighters who are his size more or less and equally talented.

the fact of the matter is, hopkins isn't in the mix because he has yet to find a smaller, lesser skilled, big name opponent to beat up and make millions off.

i say he should fight a dawson just to prove he can beat somebody his size with some talent besides the part-time movie actor tarver.

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[CiganoBoxer]

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[ßringer]

lmao...funny how nobody mentions the fact that taylor was supposed to be too green for hopkins, yet hopkins lost to him 2x.

jones, calzaghe, taylor. funny how hopkins lost to all of these fighters who are his size more or less and equally talented.

the fact of the matter is, hopkins isn't in the mix because he has yet to find a smaller, lesser skilled, big name opponent to beat up and make millions off.

when is the last time hopkins, despite being a natural lightheavy, fought a natural lightheavy who had some real talent besides the part-time movie actor tarver. this cat is a natural lightheavy making catchweight fights with middleweights and gets major props like he's soundly dominating cruisers or heavys. i say he should fight a dawson just to prove he can beat somebody his size with some talent besides the part-time movie actor tarver.

1.) The Taylor "losses" were highly disputed, with most experts giving Hopkins the edge in the first fight, though I myself think he lost that one, and won the rematch.

2.) The whole size difference thing is blown way out of proportion by Hopkins' critics. He defended his Middleweight title against 20 men who were roughly the same size as him.

Felix Trinidad fit well at 160lbs, he moved up and demolished William Joppy, a career 160lbs'er with a pretty damn solid record, in 6 rounds. A man Hopkins himself couldn't KO in a full 12 round fight.

Oscar De La Hoya had no business at 160, and winky had no business at 175, they were the only 2 "blown" up opponets on Hopkins' record.

Tarver was the bigger man, and Pavlik was a fine fit for the 170lbs catchweight. (Pavlik just beat Taylor at 166lbs, just 4lbs short of the weight Hopkins schooled him at)

Say what you ant about Tarver, but he was a top 10 P4P fighte when Hopkins dominated him, and everybody had written Hopkins off in that one.

As for Dawson, I'm all for it. Dawson is way too green and flawed to hang with an elite fighter like Hopkins, I see a UD for Hopkins, something like 116-112 or 117-111.

But that's only if Hopkins wants to do it. He doesn't have to prove anything to his critics anymore, because people like you will always find something to hate him for. You'll just say Dawson wasn't experienced enough, and that Hopkins should've fought (insert name here). For the rest of us, he has our utmost respect. And his place in history has been cemented for the last 4 years, this whole Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik string past the age of 40 was just icing on the cake.

[xfiles]

Thats because he cant get the big fights, they keep ducking him, just like they did with joe for years, kessler would destory old man popkins, it wouldent even go the distance

When kessler gets a break he will take america by storm wait and see

You mean besides the break he got when he got his butt kicked by Calslappy?

[xfiles]

Hopkins can retire on top with nothing to prove, Calzaghe on the other hand retired as punk and everybody knows it.

That's the understatement of the year.

[IMDAZED]

1.) The Taylor "losses" were highly disputed, with most experts giving Hopkins the edge in the first fight, though I myself think he lost that one, and won the rematch.

2.) The whole size difference thing is blown way out of proportion by Hopkins' critics. He defended his Middleweight title against 20 men who were roughly the same size as him.

Felix Trinidad fit well at 160lbs, he moved up and demolished William Joppy, a career 160lbs'er with a pretty damn solid record, in 6 rounds. A man Hopkins himself couldn't KO in a full 12 round fight.

Oscar De La Hoya had no business at 160, and winky had no business at 175, they were the only 2 "blown" up opponets on Hopkins' record.

Tarver was the bigger man, and Pavlik was a fine fit for the 170lbs catchweight. (Pavlik just beat Taylor at 166lbs, just 4lbs short of the weight Hopkins schooled him at)

Say what you ant about Tarver, but he was a top 10 P4P fighte when Hopkins dominated him, and everybody had written Hopkins off in that one.

As for Dawson, I'm all for it. Dawson is way too green and flawed to hang with an elite fighter like Hopkins, I see a UD for Hopkins, something like 116-112 or 117-111.

But that's only if Hopkins wants to do it. He doesn't have to prove anything to his critics anymore, because people like you will always find something to hate him for. You'll just say Dawson wasn't experienced enough, and that Hopkins should've fought (insert name here). For the rest of us, he has our utmost respect. And his place in history has been cemented for the last 4 years, this whole Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik string past the age of 40 was just icing on the cake.

TheBringer - I'd also add that Hopkins weighed 156 for the DLH fight.

[IMDAZED]

I believe he is. Iceman Scully also said he was always a natural light heavy who boiled down to middle. Plus he walks around at 180 - 190 pounds.

He may walk around 180-190 NOW but most DEFINITELY did not when he was at 160.

So is there any legitimate reason why anyone thinks he's a LHW? Other than to discredit him?

[xfiles]

I believe he is. Iceman Scully also said he was always a natural light heavy who boiled down to middle. Plus he walks around at 180 - 190 pounds.

That's bull****, Natural light heavyweights don't just boil down to 157 when there 40 years old and still be able to fight. It defeats the definition of being natural ******. Your natural weight is as low as you can go and still compete.

[djtmal]

1.) The Taylor "losses" were highly disputed, with most experts giving Hopkins the edge in the first fight, though I myself think he lost that one, and won the rematch.

2.) The whole size difference thing is blown way out of proportion by Hopkins' critics. He defended his Middleweight title against 20 men who were roughly the same size as him.

Felix Trinidad fit well at 160lbs, he moved up and demolished William Joppy, a career 160lbs'er with a pretty damn solid record, in 6 rounds. A man Hopkins himself couldn't KO in a full 12 round fight.

Oscar De La Hoya had no business at 160, and winky had no business at 175, they were the only 2 "blown" up opponets on Hopkins' record.

Tarver was the bigger man, and Pavlik was a fine fit for the 170lbs catchweight. (Pavlik just beat Taylor at 166lbs, just 4lbs short of the weight Hopkins schooled him at)

Say what you ant about Tarver, but he was a top 10 P4P fighte when Hopkins dominated him, and everybody had written Hopkins off in that one.

As for Dawson, I'm all for it. Dawson is way too green and flawed to hang with an elite fighter like Hopkins, I see a UD for Hopkins, something like 116-112 or 117-111.

But that's only if Hopkins wants to do it. He doesn't have to prove anything to his critics anymore, because people like you will always find something to hate him for. You'll just say Dawson wasn't experienced enough, and that Hopkins should've fought (insert name here). For the rest of us, he has our utmost respect. And his place in history has been cemented for the last 4 years, this whole Tarver, Wright, Calzaghe, Pavlik string past the age of 40 was just icing on the cake.

good post. although you probably know i don't agree with most of it. lol

i thought he lost both taylor fights, although i wouldn't have been mad at a draw in the first fight. fact of the matter is taylor was supposed to be too green to even hang with hopkins. how anyone feels those losses were highly disputed is beyond me, given the fact that taylor fought hopkins far more competitive than the robert allens (3 times?), eastmans, hakkars, oscars and trinidads he was feasting on. taylor had hopkins unwilling to throw punches for about 6 or 7 rounds in both fights, and hopkins was definitely unwilling to trade in the late rounds to seal the deal in both fights.

yes he defended that middleweight title against 20 men, but even hopkins admitted in ring magazine that after entering boxing at 175, he was sweating and dieting down to 160 for years to stay in that division. Above that, he dominated one of the weakest eras at 160 in boxing history.

at the same time i can't be mad at hopkins for sweating down from lightheavy to forge a lucrative career, boxing is a tough, unforgiving sport, but after the trinidad fight he would have gained far more respect from me and others had he made the jump up to 168 where calzaghe was waiting or 175 when jones told him "60-40". Hell even that Tarver victory wasn't that special, being that hopkins only fought him only after taylor ran him out of the middleweight division and tarver looked like garbage in Jones III and started acting in movies.

So we have the 1 legit fight at 175 which was Tarver and everything else is catchweight fights against smaller men that everybody gives him tons of credit for. Why nobody pushes for this cat to fight an equally talented lightheavyweight is beyond me. I say fight Dawson. He can't be no more green than Taylor was. Not just fight him but beat him convincingly and shut us critics up for real.

[djtmal]

He may walk around 180-190 NOW but most DEFINITELY did not when he was at 160.

So is there any legitimate reason why anyone thinks he's a LHW? Other than to discredit him?

his first fight was at 175. makes him a lightheavy in my book