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Nigel Benn: "Calzaghe Beats Me, Hagler, Hearns, Sugar"
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Originally posted by coffeecool View PostCalzaghe's achievement is towering. Not only in recent years, but in Boxing History. He is an exemplar. Shunning the trend to swap weights and titles for money and fame. He stood his ground, made that championship his. One of the few to hold a championship for over a decade. One of the very few to retire undefeated and the only man to defend a title more times was the Godlike Joe Louis. Boxing can be proud it produced such a man. Wales can be proud to have born such a hero...and Joe, can be proud of himself, to have always found a way to win, to have always trained and fought as if it really mattered, to have been...and to always be, our Champion. Ding Ding!
He deserves is dues. It takes so much hard work to even come close to doing what he did.
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so its official even hagler says calzaghe was special i love it more and more respected ppl in boxing have come out and paid respect to joe i bet the haters are fuming and whats great is theres only gonna be more doing it except that **** carl froch
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Originally posted by Burning Desire View PostTo be honest am i the only on who thinks Marvin Hagler vs Roberto Duran, is one of the most overrated close fights in history ? i honestly didn't think it was that close. Marvin Hagler was a very good boxer people should watch how he uses his feet and counter punches against Bennie Briscoe, Vito Antuofermo 1, brilliant boxing right there.
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Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8 View PostOf course yes, Calzaghe has a very good chance against all the great MW, SMW & LHW in any era but not to the point as what a respected boxer Nigel Benn had said...cause he sounds conclusive but he's still entitled to his own opinion...
Light-heavyweights are whom he should be matched up with anyway, rather than smaller guys like Leonard and Hagler, and Duran who peaked at friggin 135 for crying out loud.
175 is where Calzaghe would most likely be fighting under the old weigh-in rules anyway (even if 168 did exist before the mid 80s).
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Originally posted by znarfv_y2k8 View PostAs what i've said before u have to consult ur resources & use ur common sense & put logic on it...i have to start on this way, assuming they have to be match at their prime Joe's height 5'11", reach 73" while Leonard 5'10", reach 74" is this a great disparity/difference...why too small & isn't that much better to compensate for that...
as what i've said before, the great magic 4 fought w/ each other in a championship bout frm WW up to the SMW...Hearns 6'1" reach 78", Hagler 5'9.5" reach 75"....maybe u can startabout it, or go for the skills, power, heart, talent, etc.
There's height and reach, but there's also frame. Leonard in his prime in the early 80s would be bloated if he tried to move up to face a light-heavyweight, or would be at a huge weight disadvantage if he chose to remain light. Same with Hearns. We've seen how Leonard looked when he ventured above 160 in the late 80s. He didn't look good, and that was against a shrunk down Lalonde and a Hearns whom many (including Leonard) thought was shot after the Barkley KO and struggle with Kinchen.
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Am I finally seeing the end of this post?
I've been reading this post since yesterday... I decided to sleep and check this thread again.
But really... there are some good posts here that made the exact point of the issue. Others just can't take it or ignore it so they still have to say something to prove that they know every little aspect in boxing.
But one thing is for sure... Calzaghe was great in his boxing career, in his own era. Who would actually know who beats who?
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