Nigel Benn: "Calzaghe Beats Me, Hagler, Hearns, Sugar"

[dblaze9]

What this guy is saying could be TRUE STORY, and everyone is laughing...Joe is a phenomenal fighter with CRAZY talent in the squared circle. I don't know if I would take it as far as all of those names, but IT IS POSSIBLE!!!

[DarchinyFAN]

Personally I think Benn is crazy....... Like a fox.

You see I think he actually hates Calzaghe, and knows that making a statement about him beating alltime greats would set people against old Calzerdei.

[Edward Hitler]

History also says the 1st President of the U.S. was George Washington.

well i dunno about that and were talkin about boxing not american history im english i dont have a clue about presidents except bush was a **** where as all boxing history books will tell how joe ground out a glorious points win over the racist hopkins. and oh what a victory for him it was

[Dan...]

So then was the time he fought Leonard his prime?

It is arguable. He was clearly on the slide prior to that fight but I will concede it was pretty close to his prime. I commented earlier in this thread though that Marvin fought a horrible horrible fight against Sugar. Add to that that I don't think JoeC would have been able to fight Marvin in the way that Ray was able to.

[KJB]

maybe ur right but like i say the history books are gonna say hopkins lost and thats all there is to it 1999 2001 2007 2975 it dont make a difference bhop lost and historys always gonna say that

History will also always hold Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. in higher regard than Joe Calzaghe.

[Edward Hitler]

im not saying joe would have beaten all them fighters but i strongly belive ppl write him off way to easily and ppl made that mistake how many times and joe like a true champion defied the odds and somehow managed to with the fuight and for thaty he gets my upmost respect

[Thread Stealer]

What Benn is saying is not outrageous at all.

Calzaghe would probably beat most or all of them, based on size advantage. Leonard's prime was at 147 lbs. Calzaghe's was at 168 lbs, and also under different weigh-in rules, so he'd likely have been an 175 lb fighter under the old weigh-in rules. That also gives him a considerable size advantage over Hagler, who wasn't an especially big MW either. The Hearns of 1987 at light-heavyweight might beat Calzaghe, but it's pretty unlikely the early 90s Hearns does.

Calzaghe is certainly not better/greater than Leonard/Hearns/Hagler, he's just bigger.

There's a point where skills/talent cannot overcome the size advantage. Calzaghe is not some bum at 168/175. He is a very good fighter.

[Edward Hitler]

History will also always hold Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. in higher regard than Joe Calzaghe.

no it wont at all in 50 years time ppl will know the name hopkins and jones yeah but then they will no the name calzaghe the 46-0 undefeated 11 year 21 defences smw lhw world champion much the same as ppl remember marciano now

[Thread Stealer]

if Calzaghe was around in the 80s he would be a nobody. Hearns, Hagler, and Sugar Ray KILL calzaghe.

If he were around in the 80s, none of those guys would fight Calzaghe.

Calzaghe would be a light-heavyweight, where Hearns never fought, Leonard officially fought once and even that was a catchweight at SMW, and Hearns fought once pre-1991. Calzaghe would probably lose to the likes of Qawi and Spinks. He might beat E. Muhammad (maybe not the version who fought Johnson) though, and Johnson.

[Puntoyhauf]

i dont claim to be the best speller in the world far from it but you can say i dont respect ppls opinions your twice as bad as me so dont come at me with that **** i listen to what ppl say and voice my own opinion just like you and thats all it is my opinion and yours except you seem to think yours is the bottom line and thats it where as im open to sugestion and am willing to be proved wrong

Good. So I'm free to say that I think that if a primed Roy Jones Jr. was in the ring when he knocked Calzaghe in the first round... Calzaghe wouldn't have made it to the second round. But again..it's just my opinion, I don't even want to prove you wrong, I will respect what you believe. After Roy and Joe's fight, Joe even admitted that he would not come close to beating a primed Roy... and that is what respect is. I respected Joe and I respect his decision to retire.
I also believe that Joe has nothing but respect for the 80's fighters and not unless I hear him say that he could beat those all time greats I won't have a problem with it.

It's really a good experience here at boxingscene, we get to analyze fights and fighters. We should examine first what we're about to post...we must base it on facts, reality, and not just assumptions.

So if for example if Joe says he believes that Ivan Calderon would have beat him, Wladimir, Vitali, Valuev, and even Butterbean! you would not just believe him because he is a great boxer, would you? well that is the case here, we are educating ourselves here, that is why this is called a forum... we share knowledge in boxing.

our post will easily determine if we really are pure boxing fans, haters, nuthuggers or even at some case ******s.