joe calzaghe - why does he get so much hatred on this forum?

[IMDAZED]

what prime atgs did toney, hopkins, marciano among others beat?

Jmaes Toney beat a fellow great.

So did Bernard Hopkins.

[BetterCallSaul]

Calzaghe is great. All the American fighters back then were ducking him like Taylor is doing Froch.

[Enemy/Friend]

Calzaghe is great. All the American fighters back then were ducking him like Taylor is doing Froch.

The Taylor-Froch fight is on... Where have you been?

Wasn't Calzaghe the one who pulled out of a fight with Johnson several times? I guess that Yank wasn't afraid. Nationality shouldn't even be in this discussion.

[BetterCallSaul]

The Tyalor-Froch fight is on... Where have you been?

My post is meant to be ironic.

[boxasmash]

Jmaes Toney beat a fellow great.

So did Bernard Hopkins.

what atg did toney beat?

same for hopkins.

[Enemy/Friend]

My post is meant to be ironic.

I am glad you weren't serious.....

[DuttyAlacrity]

I don't like him mostly because of his fans on here and the way he thinks of himself. I mean does anyone really look at this guy box?!? He boxes like a girl throwing a hissy fit. He has no form, no style and clowns way too much in the ring.

He is blessed with incredible speed for someone his size. He has great determination and I don't think there is any doubt about the size of his heart. Being a beltholder for 10 years and making that many defenses is pretty damn good. He is an ATG SMW.

However, SMW is a weak ass division and his record is padded with euro bums because for years he refused to come out of his haven to take on real challenges. To be fighting as long as he did and never fight Tony or Jones in their prime is a knock on him. It would seem that his only real risk was BHop and maybe Kessler. The fight with Bhop was pretty close and if Bhop was more active it would have been curtains for joe. Apparently he knows that because he won't give BHOP a rematch (the first half of the fight was all Bhop), that's another knock on him. And quite honestly what ATG can you think of that Joe would be able to hang with... really.. I'll wait....
If joe is an ATG he's no higher than the top 75. And the only reason why he's there is because of Bhop's performance after he fought joe. If Bhop lost to Pavlik, joe would have been in BAD shape (another reason why I believe he won't give Bhop the rematch - that's his last legitimate claim of being an overall ATG).

[mrlopez]

recognise true greatness, don't be ignorant.

I think its because we as americans want a fighter to fight here and fight the best, not wait forever in his backyard, hand picking opponents and finally coming over here with a ****y/******* attitude and fight some older cats...
and then not have the balls to rematch the one old man who he lost to by SD, when a lot of people thought it should have been a draw or gone the other way...Real champs rematch, chumps dont......

[Grimmer]

Because he's successful and he isn't American.

I want Joe C to fight Chad, not because Chad is a deserving contender, or that I think it will be a tough fight or a good name on Joe's resume, not even to shut the haters up. But because I would love Joe C's last fight to be at the Millenium Stadium schooling yet another "up and comer who will brutally end Joe's career". The haters won't go away, there's always one more fighter out there who Joe will be ducking, who would brutally beat him up. RJJ was shot, that fight was a sparring session. I want Joe to school a guy with no excuses, just like he has done before and more than capable of doing again.

[Testdead]

Not American
Is White


The guy is an ATG forget the morons who disagree its ESB taking over!