Larry says Mayweather beats Pernell Whiitaker and badly

[El Dominicano]

I don't think ndou is a lefty (correct me in case). But I agree on your general point. if you combine Corley+Mitchell+Judah, he lost something like 5 rounds... and put a hurting on all of them.

My fault but yeah. Anyway, ALOT of people have been saying Mayweather can't deal with southpaws...I'll never understand where there gettin that from

[BennyST]

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Floyd would just adjust and become the aggressor like he did in the Judah fight. Pea was far from being a power puncher. Floyd would take risks and exchange against Pea knowing he has limited power also

Like he did against Judah huh? Sorry, I couldn't help but find that funny. Did you read that part about comparing it to the Judah fight in my post? Maybe you're being sarcastic. I don't know.

If Mayweather becomes aggressive and leads against Pea then it makes it easier for Pea. It makes it more his fight. Adjusting and becoming more aggressive against Judah is one thing, but doing the same thing against Pea is entirely different. I knew that someone would bring that point up. "He'll adjust just like he did against Judah and then knock him out!"

Pea might not have had great power but he most definitely had enough to make any fighter that's ever fought respect him. He had enough to make Chavez respect him and he also had enough to make Nelson respect him. If anyone can beat Nelson while on the back foot, and beating him on the inside too, then they not only have freakish skills, but they also need to have enough power to make him respect them. Mayweather could never walk through Pea, if he tries it becomes a convincing UD instead of a close UD.

Anyway, for those wanting to compare this to the Judah fight....You can't! Judah, for one, was easy to catch for anyone with good accuracy, patience and a decent straight right. Hell, he was blistered by Clottey's straight right much worse than Mayweather did and he was landing it at will a lot earlier than Mayweather as well. Judah also fights very, very differently than Pea so there is no comparison to be made there either. As we've seen time and time again, Judah does not have the focus for a full pro fight in tough situations.

We could ask this question which is much more probable I think. Was it Mayweather's ability to adjust or Judah's lack of focus that lost him the fight? I personally think it was due to both but easily as much due to Judah's lack of focus and impatience. Baldomir adjusted to Judah! Tszyu adjusted to Judah in one round! Adjusting to Judah is not hard. It's no great feat of Mayweather's to have done so and certainly nothing to compare to fighting Pea.

One important thing though is that if anyone is thinking that Mayweather adjusts and then aggressively walks down Pea is looking at this fight wrong. If he tries that, he loses. He falls straight into what would make it the easiest option for Pea to win it.

[BennyST]

I base it on the fact that he has shown some flaws against them and also that his style is designed best for fighting righties. It's really, really hard to fight southpaws with the Philly Shell. The punches come in at the wrong angles.

Anyway, I'm off so I'll come back to this. It's good.

One thing though, yes, he didn't lose many rounds to those guys. Just look at who they were though and at what stage in their careers. Mitchell had been blasted out by Tszyu in three rounds long before which ended his elite days. Judah had shown he could not fight past four, five rounds in adversity and Corley was a decent but was beaten worse by lesser fighters than Mayweather.

you could see his flaws and what could be though against southpaws which is the point. He never fought a good enough one to have them exploited but they are most definitely there and you can easily see them. If I was a fighter going up against Mayweather I would want to be a southpaw.

[C.Y.]

larryx says Mayweather beats Pernell Whiitaker and badly. What do you think would be the outcome if a prime Pea met a prime Mayweather at a catch ?


I think Whitaker would beat him clearly myself. Mayweather Snr has already stressed ealier in Floyd's career that he is not comfortable fighting Southpaw's and i think we saw that in his fight with Judah where he he got outboxed for 5 rounds. Corley even managed to buzz him.


Pernell would have Mayweather x2 on his resume if he had fought Floyd too.

Judah only won 3 rounds maybe you could argue 4.. Corley lost every round and got beaten badly by floyd.. Pernell Whitaker struggled agaisnt Roger Mayweather among other fighters who had good right hands so you can throw the southpaw having an advantage over the orthadox fighter stuff out the window.. i think it would be a close fighter but i think floyd would win.. i can see pernell getting a victory because of his spectacular defense, but more times than not i see floyd winning

[Ishy Aytan]

Judah only won 3 rounds maybe you could argue 4.. Corley lost every round and got beaten badly by floyd.. Pernell Whitaker struggled agaisnt Roger Mayweather among other fighters who had good right hands so you can throw the southpaw having an advantage over the orthadox fighter stuff out the window.. i think it would be a close fighter but i think floyd would win.. i can see pernell getting a victory because of his spectacular defense, but more times than not i see floyd winning

This is what i said. Floyds beaten every southpaw he's faced. Corley was down twice. Also, Floyd clearly beat Judah as well. He may of won like 3/4 rounds, but Floyd came out on top. Not all fights are one sided and Floyds had a few tough fights in his career.



Anyway, guys i'm gonna start downloading prime Whittaker fights. Any suggestions?

It will be much appreciated.

[Mr. Philadel]

Pea vs Floyd?.....I plead the 5th

[Burning Desire]

If you feel Ramirez didn't win a round in the first fight, you are an idiot. Either way, Whitaker beats Floyd pretty handily.

To be honest i did give Jose Luis Ramirez 3 rounds but i found it hard to give him any rounds, in every round he was never able to make it his kind of fight. Pernell Whitaker dominated him with ring general ship.

He also domianted him with his jab and his movement was superb for all 12 rounds, not allowing Jose Luis Ramirez to get on the inside. And he just plain out pucnhed Jose Luis Ramirez, i feel that was a bigger robbery than Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez.

[Burning Desire]

It'd go either way. Whitaker has the stamina, jab to go the 12 rounds. He is also the better body puncher and his defense/ accuracy is great. Mayweather is the stronger, faster more accurate puncher...On the inside Whitaker would win on the outside Mayweather would win. I've seen McGirt/ Hurtado give Whitaker PROBLEMS on the outside and they aren't as good as Floyd.


So my take is...Whitaker is smarter on the inside, he knows all the tricks and is the better body puncher.

Mayweather is the better fighter on the outside. He has the speed and footwork to win on the outside.


Just remember...I'm a HUGE fan of both fighters and I've seen almost all their fights

To be fair when Pernell Whitaker fought Diosbelys Hurtado he was past his prime, and Diosbelys Hurtado fought an ugly fight and at times fought like an Amateur fighter. Flurrying then clinching and ETC, both of the knockdowns were due to Pernell Whitaker being off balance.

Other than that i thought Pernell Whitaker dealt with it well, considering it must of been very frustrating the way Diosbelys Hurtado was fighting him. As for Buddy McGirt to be honest i know Buddy McGirt won atleast 4 rounds in there 1st meeting.

But i thought Pernell Whitaker took a foot off the gas in the last couple of rounds on purpose. I thought he had plenty left and could of closed the show, but he instead just cruised to victory which could of been a mistake because Buddy McGirt did tighten things up on the scorecards.

But other than a few of the early rounds and when Pernell Whitaker cruised at the end. I thought he handled Buddy McGirt pretty well, considering how good of a fighter Buddy McGirt is. And lets remember Pernell Whitaker gave Buddy McGirt a beating in the rematch.

[Pugilistic™]

I can't pick a winner.

Its 50/50.

[Dynamite Kid]

Opened a can of worms here, look at the Floyd kids they are like a dog with a bone.