WHY DID MOSELY TURN DOWN A FLOYD FIGHT?? (Truth only)

[Horus]

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Maybe because he was still signed to Arum at the time. After Floyd broke away and sued Arum he wanted nothing to do with him or his fighters when it came down to business. Seems reasonable to me.

I didnt even want to bring that up...but this is true too. Arum **** floyd out of alot of money from that Judah fight...something so serious that floyd took him to court.. I heard things have gotten better now between the two of them... but floyd was pretty piss at arum

[JAB5239]

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You still havent said what has change in his style to make him now alll of a sudden more compable to beat floyd...What change iin cotto style since 2006
that now makes him ready..

How do you know he's not capable of beating Floyd unless they fight? Maybe he just needed a few more fights to build his confidence.

and.. honestly i dont know why Floyd gave a oppurtunity to Cotto at 140.., because at 140 and 147 and right now Cotto would get tko'ed.. He is very flawed..and would be probably tko'ed against Floyd... because he gets hit too much... waste punches. Maybe floyd wanted a good follow up fight after gatti... Something that would keep him busy.

This is a bunch of crap since Floyd has never had to deal with a fighter as strong, fast and who brings as much pressure. If you say Hatton you're wrong. Hatton doesn't hit as hard and he smothers his own punches. I don't claim Cotto wins(although I do think its the toughest fight for Floyd)but he was and is a deserving challenger capable of pulling the upset.

[JAB5239]

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I didnt even want to bring that up...but this is true too. Arum **** floyd out of alot of money from that Judah fight...something so serious that floyd took him to court.. I heard things have gotten better now between the two of them... but floyd was pretty piss at arum

Lovely excuse. Arum hasn't been convicted of anything and also Claims Floyd owes him money. If Floyd wanted the fights they could have been worked out, its been done before. Bottom line...Floyd made excuses and said no. Told Margs down the road, and said Cotto needed to buiold a fan base even though he wanted him at 140 where he was much lessd known.

[Saloth Sar]

I think this is a great thread.. alot of honest discussion

[Horus]

Mayweather in no hurry to return for Mosley

Thursday, January 29, 2009
By David Mayo


Shane Mosley is making noise about fighting Floyd Mayweather again, both with his mouth and his fists.

Perhaps he hasn't been listening.

Mayweather might be willing to come back for the biggest fight in boxing. Or maybe not. He has not wavered from his position of the past several weeks, that if he felt guided to return to the ring for the sport's biggest possible event, he might. A definite maybe.

Problem is, Mayweather-Mosley isn't the biggest possible fight.
Make no mistake, Mayweather's return would be the biggest event in boxing. No debate about the overloaded welterweight division is complete without speculating about the Grand Rapids native's potential for a comeback. He is the highest-earning American in the sport, outside of Oscar De La Hoya, whose star power was dulled by last month's lopsided loss to Manny Pacquiao.

Boxing could use a comeback by the undefeated Mayweather. And the longer he stays inactive, the more his ardent pursuers come to view him as vulnerable, which only increases the outcry.

Like from Pacquiao, the man who assumed Mayweather's pound-for-pound mantle.

Or from Ricky Hatton, the man left pancaked on a Las Vegas canvas, courtesy of a walloping left hook, last time Mayweather was seen in a ring.

But Mosley?

Mosley staked his most recent pursuit of Mayweather with a dominating ninth-round knockout of Antonio Margarito on Saturday before the largest crowd ever to fill Los Angeles' Staples Center for any event. Not even the 2004 Pistons-Lakers championship series drew like Mosley-Margarito.

Keep in mind, however, that both Mosley and Margarito entered the fight with five losses. As impressive as Mosley's power display was, it isn't as if beating Margarito hadn't been done.

It also is worth remembering the interminable delays Mosley caused for Mayweather on at least two occasions earlier in their careers, when the fight made all kinds of sense, only for Mosley to shy away.
Ten years ago, when a fight between them would have matched two of the brilliant, rising stars in the sport, Mosley balked. He and his father and then-trainer, Jack, were at Van Andel Arena the night Mayweather brought Grand Rapids its first championship fight, after which Jack Mosley was asked to assess his interest in the matchup.

For $10 million, his son would take the fight, Jack Mosley said, knowing that Mayweather had earned a $150,000 base purse for that night's lackluster decision over Carlos Rios, and that Mayweather-Mosley wasn't worth eight figures even if the purses were combined, then multiplied by two.

They traveled divergent paths for years thereafter. Mosley moved up to welterweight and defeated De La Hoya, only to lose twice to Vernon Forrest. Another win over De La Hoya boosted him again, only to fall victim to a pair of losses to Ronald "Winky" Wright.

It took until mid-2006, after Mosley scored consecutive knockouts over Fernando Vargas, before Mayweather-Mosley made sense again.

Mosley decided to take a vacation instead, leaving Mayweather to fight Carlos Baldomir.

So what would encourage Mayweather, whose eye is on bigger prizes against other marquee opponents, to agree to such a fight now that it benefits Mosley?

Probably nothing.

Richard Schaefer, chief executive of Golden Boy Promotions, said after Mosley's victory that he intends to open talks with Mayweather's representatives.

That phone might ring a while.

Mayweather-Mosley would be enormous. But fill in Mosley's name with someone else's -- someone who didn't hold up Mayweather's career, back when it mattered -- and that doesn't change.

Mosley, at 37, scored a big victory. That doesn't mean he is the person to lure Mayweather out of retirement. That fight could have happened on several occasions. Mosley opted out every time.

As much as Mosley might want to opt in now, the only opponent Mayweather should wait out is the Hatton-Pacquiao winner in May, assuming he is waiting

Case Closed.!!

[cortdawg25]

Case Closed.!!

U know the writer of that story got caught with like 100 lbs of marijuanna in basement and plants and lights, the whole 9.

[Horus]

U know the writer of that story got caught with like 100 lbs of marijuanna in basement and plants and lights, the whole 9.

it is all bad for him then....
but what does that got to do with the fact mosely has turn at least 3 offers to fight floyd in the past..when Mosely was in his prime??

[RL_GMA]

it is all bad for him then....
but what does that got to do with the fact mosely has turn at least 3 offers to fight floyd in the past..when Mosely was in his prime??

Mosley wasn't in his prime when any talks began about a proposed Mosley vs Mayweather fight. He'd already fought Oscar twice, Winky, and Vernon Forrest twice while Floyd was still beginning to gain widespread attention. In the same notion I can say Vernon Forrest called out Oscar, Winky, and Tito post the Mosley win, but realistically it wasn't going to happen (yet at least).

Floyd was calling out everybody after every post fight interview just to get the ball rolling on him being marketed as the "bad guy" in the business...smart move on his team's part.

But I am a bit surprised he turned down the fight because he knows GBP are the only promoters that can give him the money he wants and a win over Shane Mosley is STILL to this day a high accolade and a good look for Floyd being his resume is always up for debate.

[Horus]

Mosley wasn't in his prime when any talks began about a proposed Mosley vs Mayweather fight. He'd already fought Oscar twice, Winky, and Vernon Forrest twice while Floyd was still beginning to gain widespread attention. In the same notion I can say Vernon Forrest called out Oscar, Winky, and Tito post the Mosley win, but realistically it wasn't going to happen (yet at least).

Floyd was calling out everybody after every post fight interview just to get the ball rolling on him being marketed as the "bad guy" in the business...smart move on his team's part.

But I am a bit surprised he turned down the fight because he knows GBP are the only promoters that can give him the money he wants and a win over Shane Mosley is STILL to this day a high accolade and a good look for Floyd being his resume is always up for debate.

Honestly, Mayweather might be willing to come back for the biggest fight in boxing. Or maybe not. He has not wavered from his position of the past several weeks, that if he felt guided to return to the ring for the sport's biggest possible event, he might. A definite maybe.

Problem is, Mayweather-Mosley isn't the biggest possible fight.
Make no mistake, Mayweather's return would be the biggest event in boxing.

This is Very important to consider:

• Mosley OPENLY DUCK Mayweather on at least two occasions earlier in their careers, when the fight made all kinds of sense, only for Mosley to shy away.

Ten years ago, when a fight between them would have matched two of the brilliant, rising stars in the sport, Mosley balked. He and his father and then-trainer, Jack, were at Van Andel Arena the night Mayweather brought Grand Rapids its first championship fight, after which Jack Mosley was asked to assess his interest in the matchup.

For $10 million, his son would take the fight, Jack Mosley said, knowing that Mayweather had earned a $150,000 base purse for that night's lackluster decision over Carlos Rios, and that Mayweather-Mosley wasn't worth eight figures even if the purses were combined, then multiplied by two.



They traveled divergent paths for years thereafter. Mosley moved up to welterweight and defeated De La Hoya, only to lose twice to Vernon Forrest. Another win over De La Hoya boosted him again, only to fall victim to a pair of losses to Ronald "Winky" Wright.

It took until mid-2006, after Mosley scored consecutive knockouts over Fernando Vargas, before Mayweather-Mosley made sense again.

Mosley decided to take a vacation instead, leaving Mayweather to fight Carlos Baldomir.

So what would encourage Mayweather, whose eye is on bigger prizes against other marquee opponents, to agree to such a fight now that it benefits Mosley?

Probably nothing.

[Saloth Sar]

my bad for bumping this thread..but i just seen video proof that mosely did in fact duck floyd..