Present Fighter vs. all the Past Greats of his respective division?

[TheGreatA]

Theres the Angott fight? I've searched all over for that fight. I've really wanted to see that, I've seen alot of Robinsons fights but the ones at Welter elude me.

If you could point me in the direction of the angott fight I would be very grateful

The old Ray Robinson pound for pound document has short clips of his welterweight fights as well as some rare pictures of fights against Zivic, Armstrong, etc. It also shows Armstrong training for Ray Robinson, and Robinson struggling to make weight for the welterweight title defense against Fusari.

Longer versions of those fights are pretty rare and would probably have to be bought from somewhere.

[JAB5239]

Thomas Hearns vs. anyone at 154?

McCallum and Julian Jackson I would give a chance to, but not favor. Hearns was a beast.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

McCallum and Julian Jackson I would give a chance to, but not favor. Hearns was a beast.

i think jackson folds like a lawnchair once he gets caught....but then again, so can tommy...lol

[JAB5239]

Roy Jones Jr. at his peak against these guys.

Sugar Ray Robinson
Marvin Hagler
Carlos Monzon
Bob Fitzsimmons

He has already dealt with Hopkins and Toney. Does he beat these guys?

I agree he dealt with Toney, but a much better middleweight Hopkins emerged after Jones had already fought him.

[TheGreatA]

Thats why I didn't put Cervantes on there because Pryor already beat him even though it was a faded version of Cervantes.

Any if you can point me toward the Robinson-Angott video when I get my next interest (tommorow) i'll give you 100k

I could upload short clips of Robinson's welterweight days from the p4p document to youtube if you want to. The clips don't last long though, only 20-30 seconds each. No points needed for that.

Unfortunately I don't have a longer version of the fight on my hands right now.

[TheGreatA]

McCallum and Julian Jackson I would give a chance to, but not favor. Hearns was a beast.

I'm one of the few that believe McCallum could've taken Hearns at 154. Of course a case could be made otherwise because Hearns could box brilliantly when he wanted to, and McCallum could have trouble with boxers.

Hearns would most likely destroy Jackson with straighter, faster punches but it would be a fun fight.

[Ryn0]

I could upload short clips of Robinson's welterweight days from the p4p document to youtube if you want to. The clips don't last long though, only 20-30 seconds each. No points needed for that.

Unfortunately I don't have a longer version of the fight on my hands right now.

Well if you could do that I would give you 100k anyway any footage of Robinson welter days.

[UnDeniable]

Mayweather at 130

I know Arguello would be a very tight fight, but i wouldn't bet against Floyd against anyone in history at 130, he just seemed so complete, great defence, insane speed, extremely focused, Floyd - Arguello would definitely be in my top 5 dream fights

Roy Jones at 168 was a freak, can't see anyone in history beating him at that weight.

No other current fighter comes to mind, possibly Hopkins at 160, although Hagler, Monzon and Robinson would all be closely contested fights

[TheGreatA]

Well if you could do that I would give you 100k anyway any footage of Robinson welter days.

Here's some (not uploaded by me):


Ray Robinson vs Charley Fusari WW title defense


Robinson vs Barnes

[Chunk..]

I agree he dealt with Toney, but a much better middleweight Hopkins emerged after Jones had already fought him.

Wouldn't have made a difference to the outcome of a Hopkins-Jones fight IMO!