Present Fighter vs. all the Past Greats of his respective division?

[Chunk..]

Okay, check it out. If there is one current fighter and put him in the ring against at least five greats who are not fighting today(like undisputed champs or hall of famers), which fighter of today would have the best chance to run through his respective weight division undefeated or with the best record against these greats?

Oh, I almost forgot... these greats are not limited to just former undisputed champions or Hall of Famers. It can also be future Hall of Famers or excellent titlist of the past.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

floyd mayweather jr

[larryx]

floyd mayweather jr

beats them all hands down..floyd versus anyone=floyd wins.....

[Ryn0]

beats them all hands down..floyd versus anyone=floyd wins.....

I'd say he has a great chance but if were picking the ATGs I could pick 5 that would beat him IMO.

[Chunk..]

I'll start you lot off!

At heavyweight I would go with Lennox Lewis, he would have been a monster, and not just a monster, he would be a monster with a great jab, tremendous power in his right hand and uppercuts and a good defense, he was tall and big and knew how to use it, he would lean on guys and sap their energy, of all the heavyweights I would say Lennox Lewis with Manny Steward in his corner might be unstoppable.

At cruiserweight I don't think there is a question no one beats Evander Holyfield.

At light heavyweight and middleweight both I would go with prime Roy Jones jr, he did things I never even seen Robinson attempt. Stylistically Bob Foster gives Roy fits at light heavyweight.

At welterweight id like to say Cotto, but I don't think now he would have the fortitude or mental toughness it would take to hang in there. I'm not going to take Manny just because I have not seen enough of him at welter although he would give most of them a run for their money. At welterweight I'm going to go with Floyd Mayweather, I think he would fare better against the welterweights of old then he would against some of the current like Mosley,Cotto or Pacquiao. But Mayweather's slickness and speed would be hard for the less polished greats of old to hit cleanly and effectively. The big problem with Mayweather is we have not seen his resiliency, he has never been pushed to the limit, never had to dig deep to come back and win..and that's really where you separate the men from the boys.

at Lightweight I will take Mosley hands down, he was untouchable, he may have been the fastest lightweight and the hardest hitting with a granite chin. Sugar Shane at lightweight just does not lose.


Below lightweight there is no real fighter who stands head n shoulders above his peers. It seems to go back n forth right now with no one stepping onto the big stage and standing out from the crowd. At least not enough that I would prematurely pick them to beat the all time greats.


Of all those guys I listed, I would say the one who has the best chance of running through the greats of his division would be Sugar Shane Mosley at lightweight, and I don't just say that because of his win Saturday night. At lightweight he was unbeatable, Id almost say Roy Jones Jr at Middleweight but I don't think he gets by Sugar Ray Robinson, Jones Jr just does not seem to have the beard to hang in there.
Mosley had the speed,power,chin, heart and boxing ability to beat the best at lightweight

Too strong and aggressive for sweet pea, too fast for Duran and when Duran did land Shane's chin would hold up well, Chavez would be too hittable and would not be able to force Shane back, Benny Leonard would have been a smaller version of Shane with less power, less speed and would simply be over powered by Shane.

Two guys I see giving Shane trouble would be Alexis Arguello because of the way he used his height and of course a match up between Shane and Aaron Pryor would have been...man...I don't know, but I think Pryor is the only guy who has a shot at out pointing Manny, but It would be close and still Mosley might be just to strong all around for Pryor or any of them, I think Shane is the strongest all round of any fighter at lightweight, at 135 he could bench over 300 lbs, that's just such brute strength at that weight.

[Ryn0]

I'd say he has a great chance but if were picking the ATGs I could pick 5 that would beat him IMO.

Personally Hopkins or realistically Wlad because if Wlad goes against some of the much smaller ATG heavys of the past he'll proberbly win. As long as he doesn't come up against the bigger ATG heavys.

[larryx]

I'd say he has a great chance but if were picking the ATGs I could pick 5 that would beat him IMO.

um...you have to know i was joking right???

[Ryn0]

I'll start you lot off!

At heavyweight I would go with Lennox Lewis, he would have been a monster, and not just a monster, he would be a monster with a great jab, tremendous power in his right hand and uppercuts and a good defense, he was tall and big and knew how to use it, he would lean on guys and sap their energy, of all the heavyweights I would say Lennox Lewis with Manny Steward in his corner might be unstoppable.

At cruiserweight I don't think there is a question no one beats Evander Holyfield.

At light heavyweight and middleweight both I would go with prime Roy Jones jr, he did things I never even seen Robinson attempt. Stylistically Bob Foster gives Roy fits at light heavyweight.

At welterweight id like to say Cotto, but I don't think now he would have the fortitude or mental toughness it would take to hang in there. I'm not going to take Manny just because I have not seen enough of him at welter although he would give most of them a run for their money. At welterweight I'm going to go with Floyd Mayweather, I think he would fare better against the welterweights of old then he would against some of the current like Mosley,Cotto or Pacquiao. But Mayweather's slickness and speed would be hard for the less polished greats of old to hit cleanly and effectively. The big problem with Mayweather is we have not seen his resiliency, he has never been pushed to the limit, never had to dig deep to come back and win..and that's really where you separate the men from the boys.

at Lightweight I will take Mosley hands down, he was untouchable, he may have been the fastest lightweight and the hardest hitting with a granite chin. Sugar Shane at lightweight just does not lose.


Below lightweight there is no real fighter who stands head n shoulders above his peers. It seems to go back n forth right now with no one stepping onto the big stage and standing out from the crowd. At least not enough that I would prematurely pick them to beat the all time greats.


Of all those guys I listed, I would say the one who has the best chance of running through the greats of his division would be Sugar Shane Mosley at lightweight, and I don't just say that because of his win Saturday night. At lightweight he was unbeatable, Id almost say Roy Jones Jr at Middleweight but I don't think he gets by Sugar Ray Robinson, Jones Jr just does not seem to have the beard to hang in there.
Mosley had the speed,power,chin, heart and boxing ability to beat the best at lightweight

Too strong and aggressive for sweet pea, too fast for Duran and when Duran did land Shane's chin would hold up well, Chavez would be too hittable and would not be able to force Shane back, Benny Leonard would have been a smaller version of Shane with less power, less speed and would simply be over powered by Shane.

Two guys I see giving Shane trouble would be Alexis Arguello because of the way he used his height and of course a match up between Shane and Aaron Pryor would have been...man...I don't know, but I think Pryor is the only guy who has a shot at out pointing Manny, but It would be close and still Mosley might be just to strong all around for Pryor or any of them, I think Shane is the strongest all round of any fighter at lightweight, at 135 he could bench over 300 lbs, that's just such brute strength at that weight.

I agree with your Shane comment apart from the Duran bit because Duran fought another Sugar in Leonard so he can certainly win. He's bigger than Shane as aggressive and hits like a truck at 135. He may be slower but his beard is incredible and had a bruising body attack.

I think Duran-Shane would end in very very very close fights everytime most likely draws

[Ryn0]

um...you have to know i was joking right???

I figured as much lol but I was just making sure

[TheGreatA]

RJJ at 168 although I wouldn't count him as a present fighter even though he is still fighting...

Lewis has been retired for nearly 6 years.