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  • #91
    Originally posted by Chase8400 View Post
    See now man, your hating is finally shining through. Hatton may have a style that ends in holds against dangerous fighters at the end of exchanges but that too is a part of boxing and is a skill. See Lennox Lewis for the best recent example of when to hold to gain leverage in a fight. If you want to get back to it, Mayweather did more holding, elbowing and bending over than Hatton has ever done in that one fight and was allowed to with little warning. Remember Hatton turning his back to Floyd and showing him his ass like Floyd did all night in the mid rounds as to indicate that he could avoid punishment too if he turned his back on his opponent and make all his punches illegal?
    Going back to the Tszyu fight, you have no footing at all. Hatton made a relentless attacker/practitioner like Kostya back up all night and fight on the inside when that's not his game. That's skill , not an illusion. Kostya was getting off shots in a hurry and looked great in that fight. It's just that Hatton would not be denied and made the fight hell to live with, so Tszyu retired on his stool. As far as being able to hold, how can you say that when the fight never went into a lul? I understand if the ref let Hatton hold all night without doing anything, but that was not what happened. He would come in with a combination and hold Kostya when in close and release to punch more. That was timing and skill, not just trying to not get hit too much. I see that you will see it as you like but I figured you may want to take an objective look at Hatton's style and reply with more knowledge rather than saying things on a whim that you don't know anything about.
    their is skill in holding, but it shouldnt be a part of your offensive strategy.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
      their is skill in holding, but it shouldnt be a part of your offensive strategy.
      why? hopkins does it all the time but never gets half the **** hatton does.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Tony628 View Post
        why? hopkins does it all the time but never gets half the **** hatton does.
        co sign that.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Tony628 View Post
          why? hopkins does it all the time but never gets half the **** hatton does.
          nah, you mustve missed the hopkins/pavlik fight. hopkins mostly uses his footwork.

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          • #95
            Hatton is an elite fighter, No Doubt, but I don't expect the haters, alts and trolls on NSB to ever give him that credit.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by mr.crust View Post
              cortez proper????????????? post of the year numb nuts lmfao! you may not be aware of this,but turning your back on your opponent is against the rules of boxing,mayweather also initiated a lot of the holding as well.what is with all this disrespect of british fighters? what we should know our place? 80% of the american posters on here seem to be dumb racist insular fcukwits that cant see beyond there own shores,and end up giving the other twenty percent a bad name.talk sense,not bollocks.the proof is in the fact that its obvious that this thread was not started as a sensible debate,but a badly disguised forum for slagging off another great british fighter,someone you aint fit to lick the sweat offs jockstrap.

              Im sorry Cortez should of let Hatton put his head in Mayweather's face the way he was allowed to against Tszyu. Holding and hitting is ileagal you dumb fcuk.

              Hatton initiated most of the holding like he did against Castillo and Tszyu,Urango.

              Thats the difference between you and me i call it as i see it, because im a Boxing fan not , because Hatton comes from the same country as me.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
                their is skill in holding, but it shouldnt be a part of your offensive strategy.
                Exactly!

                Its a defensive tactic which people accept, its part of the game when you are hurt etc.

                Hatton tries to put his weight on you so he can **** you or tie your hands up so he can **** you.

                90% of Hatton's game is using illegal tactics and bending the rules, because he cant hang with these guys otherwise.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Man In Black View Post
                  This is why I class Ricky no higher than a strong B.

                  His tenacity and fighting heart shouldn't go unmentioned, he's mixed it with and beaten some excellent comp and he isn't unskilled --- but his efforts at boxing's top level have been assisted by some serious rule-bending and forgiving officiating.
                  Agreed thats the top and bottom of it.

                  I dont hate Hatton, but at the minute i find myself ragging on him as a fighter, because his little fanboys are flooding this thread with their BS.

                  B class means a very very good fighters in my book, but its just not up there with the cream of the div.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                    Im sorry Cortez should of let Hatton put his head in Mayweather's face the way he was allowed to against Tszyu. Holding and hitting is ileagal you dumb fcuk.

                    Hatton initiated most of the holding like he did against Castillo and Tszyu,Urango.

                    Thats the difference between you and me i call it as i see it, because im a Boxing fan not , because Hatton comes from the same country as me.
                    your english???? then there must be some other reason,because your arguments are one sided and not thought through.Furthermore,you started this thread,which as even the most avid hater of white british fighters would admit was started with the sole intention of dissing hatton,so with that in mind ,I would like to ask if you are white or black?

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                    • Originally posted by mr.crust View Post
                      your english???? then there must be some other reason,because your arguments are one sided and not thought through.Furthermore,you started this thread,which as even the most avid hater of white british fighters would admit was started with the sole intention of dissing hatton,so with that in mind ,I would like to ask if you are white or black?

                      How is this dissing Hatton

                      Is Hatton elite or a B class fighter ?

                      I think you can reign in a division and still not be an elite fighter. I dont view Chris Eubank as an elite fighter, but he was a very very good fighter/ champion, but to be elite you have to have that something extra imo.

                      The real Superstars of Boxing are the elite and i dont think Hatton is in that bracket.

                      Jones jr ,Toney,Calzaghe,Whitaker,Lewis,Holyfield,Mosley,JC C,Pacquiao,Barrera, Morales,Trinidad,DLH,...... etc etc



                      Im asking a question and saying why I MYSELF dont think he is elite, which as ive already stated is still very very good bracket of fighter!

                      I started ragging on Hatton, because you let your fanboy instincts take over by swearing a cursing, so i thought id piss you right off by going to town on Hatton , because you are a little nuthugger.

                      Im black and i hate Hatton, because im black is that what you wanna hear

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