Is Hatton elite or a B class fighter

[Alibata]

He can perform, but the moment he stops overwhelming his guy is when he's vulnerable. His chin and stamina and defense is pretty bad. Him and Paq actually share some similarities, both have issues with smart fast handed fighters and both of their biggest wins we're against older guys with big names.

Now is he an elite fighter? I don't think so. A fight with the smaller Paq is still a toss up fight lol. If Hatton was elite while bein this much bigger than Paq (A: Paq wouldn't be fighting him lmao), I think the general perception of the fight would be in Hatton's favor, when it's really just a toss up fight. So nah I don't think he's elite. If your elite at 140 someone like Paq shouldn't be able to f#$% with you. You'd be too strong and fast for the smaller Paq. But in this case of these two fighting, Paq is probably faster and might have a better chin. I mean since Hatton came out west he's been gettin rocked by alot of guys he would have plowed through if he was elite.

Blah, blah, blah.... Don't you know that your opinions are worthless to anyone in boxingscene. Viva la rasa ese!!!!!

[Roger Mellie]

I guess it would be obvious, if the majority of the best fighters throughout history were not black

If you hit a nerve i would of been swearing like you wouldn't i ?

Oh dear.I think If you read back that last comment..well you decide lol

[Dynamite Kid]

He aint even close to being my favourite fighter,but I curse because I know Bull**** when I smell it.

Question who is this then ?

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[El Dominicano]

Wouldn't the best Jr WW be an elite fighter?

[Dynamite Kid]

Wouldn't the best Jr WW be an elite fighter?

Depends if the div is lacking talent or at least proven talent.

That is how i view the LWW division at the moment.

[Dynamite Kid]

Wouldn't the best Jr WW be an elite fighter?

I mean lets be real Hatton is not too small for the 147lbs division. Its just, like Margarito, Hatton needs to be physically bigger and stronger than his oponents, because he lacks the skills to be successful any other way at a higher weight.

I mean Hatton would of lost to Collazo if he had not caught him off balance in the first round.

[Chase8400]

nah, you mustve missed the hopkins/pavlik fight. hopkins mostly uses his footwork.

In that fight, he absolutely was. But see the fights where he was facing an offensive expert like the Calzaghe fight. Another example was the Tarver fight. Hopkins knows when to hold and so does Hatton. The difference is that when B-hop does it, it's considered greatness but when Hatton does it, it is considered boring, etc.....

Did you notice that Ricky didn't hold much at all against certain fighters like Malignaggi and Castillo? There was not as much of a need to. Hatton knew that and he uses different tactics against different fighters. That's a skill and not a one dimentional tick.

[Dynamite Kid]

In that fight, he absolutely was. But see the fights where he was facing an offensive expert like the Calzaghe fight. Another example was the Tarver fight. Hopkins knows when to hold and so does Hatton. The difference is that when B-hop does it, it's considered greatness but when Hatton does it, it is considered boring, etc.....

Did you notice that Ricky didn't hold much at all against certain fighters like Malignaggi and Castillo? There was not as much of a need to. hatton knew that and he uses different tactics against different fighters. That's a skill and not a one dimentional tick.

No it is considered more acceptable, because Hatton is a young man compared to Hopkins. Its virtually physically impossible for Hopkins body to fight at a sustained high pace these days.


Are you joking ? Hatton did nothing but hold against Castillo and there were only 4 rounds in the fight.

Why do you think Lederman was calling him hook and hold Ricky Hatton?

[Chase8400]

No it is considered more acceptable, because Hatton is a young man compared to Hopkins. Its virtually physically impossible for Hopkins body to fight at a sustained high pace these days.


Are you joking ? Hatton did nothing but hold against Castillo and there were only 4 rounds in the fight.

Why do you think Lederman was calling him hook and hold Ricky Hatton?

No, are you joking? Can't sustain energy due to age, etc? Did you not see the Pavlik fight? Were you not just reading the recent posts?

Woa, woa, woa. Stop right there. I have almost all of the recent Hatton fights recorded and watch them every now and then and if you seem to mention that Lederman said he was "hook and hold" Hatton, you will also recall that the other commentators said in response that it was the opponent who was initiating the holding and not Hatton.

Either way I don't expect you to be able to see this in an objective way because you have already clearly made it apparent that your posts are more of an objective to critisize Ricky as opposed to understand others opinions.

Either way, our convo is over. -Peace.

[Dynamite Kid]

No, are you joking? Can't sustain energy due to age, etc? Did you not see the Pavlik fight? Were you not just reading the recent posts?

Woa, woa, woa. Stop right there. I have almost all of the recent Hatton fights recorded and watch them every now and then and if you seem to mention that Lederman said he was "hook and hold" Hatton, you will also recall that the other commentators said in response that it was the opponent who was initiating the holding and not Hatton.

Either way I don't expect you to be able to see this in an objective way because you have already clearly made it apparent that your posts are more of an objective to critisize Ricky as opposed to understand others opinions.

Either way, our convo is over. -Peace.

Yeah i did see the Pavlik fight. One of the main reasons Hopkins won, because it was a snails pace.

Yeah and he replied 90% of it is Hatton, which was correct. Hatton is notorious for holding everyone knows that.