Bernard Hopkins is Overrated....

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of course hes overrated

i mean Roy jones Jr- lost a UD
glen johnson- W tko 11
tito- won tko 12 welterweight/junior middleweight
william joppy- won UD 12
oscar de la hoya- won KO 9 welterweight
jermain taylor- lost SD 12, lost UD 12
antonio tarver- won UD 12
winky wright- won UD 12 junior middleweight
Joe calzaghe- lost SD 12 bernard ran
Kelly pavlik- won UD 12 middleweight

most bernards big wins came from fighting opponents that had to come up in weight to fight him

great username by the way

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I used to think he was a bit overrated too but what he has accomplished over the age of 40 is quite remarkable, his resume isn't the greatest but he's a great fighter and a legend in my book.

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I used to think he was a bit overrated too but what he has accomplished over the age of 40 is quite remarkable, his resume isn't the greatest but he's a great fighter and a legend in my book.

**** the resume
look at him deeply as a fighter....
stop lookin simply at AGE and what he has done in regards to that....
instead look at what he kouldn't do and what he was unable to do....long term

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**** the resume
look at him deeply as a fighter....
stop lookin simply at AGE and what he has done in regards to that....
instead look at what he kouldn't do and what he was unable to do....long term

What was it that he couldn't do? Losing a very close SD that could have gone either way to the number 2 pound for pound fighter in the world at age 43, beating a pound for pound top 10 fighter at the same age, beating the top light heavyweight in the world at 41, these accomplishments are great, no other fighter in the history of the sport has had as much success over the age of 40.

20 middleweight title defenses against quite a few fighters ranked in the top 10 at the time, he deserves his props.

And as a fighter, his skills are great as well, one of the most well schooled fighters of this generation and he would probably be competitive in any era with his skillset.

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What was it that he couldn't do? Losing a very close SD that could have gone either way to the number 2 pound for pound fighter in the world at age 43, beating a pound for pound top 10 fighter at the same age, beating the top light heavyweight in the world at 41, these accomplishments are great, no other fighter in the history of the sport has had as much success over the age of 40.

20 middleweight title defenses against quite a few fighters ranked in the top 10 at the time, he deserves his props.

And as a fighter, his skills are great as well, one of the most well schooled fighters of this generation and he would probably be competitive in any era with his skillset.

i agree
but not LEGEND

[TheGreatA]

i agree
but not LEGEND

If Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson are legends in your view then so is Hopkins.

I don't have a problem with someone not calling Hopkins a legend because that's term you shouldn't use lightly but Hopkins ranks with Tyson and Lewis no matter how you look at it.

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Lets face it if Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson are legends in your view then so is Hopkins.

I don't have a problem with someone not calling Hopkins a legend because that's term you shouldn't use lightly but Hopkins ranks with Tyson and Lewis no matter how you look at it.

hopkins doesn't have the physical skill of a tyson or lewis.....
im sorry
great fighter, but legends
have an "X" factor (no pun intended)
that bhop lacks.....

[TheGreatA]

hopkins doesn't have the physical skill of a tyson or lewis.....
im sorry
great fighter, but legends
have an "X" factor (no pun intended)
that bhop lacks.....

You don't think his longevity is a factor?

He is still going strong at 43+ years of age which is almost unheard of in this sport (aside from Archie Moore and maybe George Foreman).

Tyson's talent didn't bring him many great victories.

Lewis got by with his combination of size and skill. He wasn't exactly spectacular, just a very solid boxer who beat the best heavyweights of his time.

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Um ok... cool. Thanks for telling all of us that.

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bernard is a great fighter but he is no legend....

bernard style is made to capatilize on 1 dimensional opponents

well clearly you have only been watching hopkins for about 1 year now. his "current style" might be boring but he is 43 years old. He was an entertaining fighter to watch once upon a time. watch him when he was in his prime. don't judge him by how he is now.