HELP ME UNDERSTAND...the truth behind Mayweather / Pacquiao.

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  • Southpaw16
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    #111
    Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
    Mayweather: Judah (prime), Baldomir, Delahoya (154), Hatton

    Pacquiao: Marquez (prime), Diaz, Delahoya (147), Hatton


    Why is Pacquaio's run celebrated ("ATG"), yet Mayweather's run is belittled ("coward")? Please help me understand.
    Barrera and Morales for Pacquaio, twice each, you neglected. These opponents are legends, and even though Pac lost his first fight with Morales those are the types of fights that help a man's legacy, not hurt it.

    Although, I would be biased if I didn't also throw in Mayweather's absolute destruction of a prime Corrales, in Corrales' best weight class.

    The real answer to your question though, is because Pac is likeable in every way, and Mayweather is dislikeable in every way. Pacquiao is exciting, Mayweather is boring. Pacquiao is a gentleman, Mayweather is an *******. Pacquiao is humble and gives back to the people, Mayweather goes blabbling like an idiot about his ***ellry. Mayweather goes around beating up women, with Pac you could never even imagine it.

    Pacquiao is a hero, and Mayweather isn't. That's the difference.

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    • Southpaw16
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      #112
      Oh, and what does it tell you when Pacquaio has openly talked about his desire to fight Margarito eventually? His career began at 106 pounds, nobody is asking him to fight Margarito, he may very well go out of his way to do it. Mayweather ran for dear life. Thats the difference.

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      • mellow_mood
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        #113
        Originally posted by wmute
        bodyweight is bodyweight is bodyweight

        if anything you weigh in same day for ams (but that was prolly the case for manny's first pro fights as well)
        say what????

        so you mean.. that fighting with 16 years old in the amateurs.... is the same than fighting in 16 in the pros>>.


        aint the same... amateurs u have kids fighting kids.. unless you are fighting with a cuban....

        is not the same wmute. Im not dissing any fighter.. but lets just be real..

        you cant compare amateur with pro.

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          #114
          Originally posted by reedickyaluss
          what difference does it make? he fought oscar de la hoya who fought at middleweight... and fought him at JMW... why cant he fight the best at WW... if your saying those fighters are too big, why did he fight Oscar? Are you saying Cotto is bigger than Oscar?

          and just because when he was in his twenties he fought at a lighter weight, doesnt mean you cant grow into a heavier weight naturally...

          he is not a natural 135 lber anymore.
          He is. And lighter fighters are not in their primes in their 30's everyone knows that. Mayweather definitely did not retire in his prime. He simply didn't give people the satisfaction to see him battered by inferior fighters who have either an huge weight advantage over him ("welterweights" like Williams and Margarito often mass 170 at fight nights) Mayweather never came in an once over 147 for a WW fight. Mayweather never re-hydrated for a 147 fight, if ever. The same people who voted Paquiao are the same who supported Hoya, Hatton, Cotto and always claiming to be hardcore fans with avatar pics and sigs they would quickly get rid of once their "favorite" character was no longer undefeated. Pacquiao is a great fighter too but i think Mayweather is really the best of this generation. Btw you forgot Hernandez, Corrales and Castillo for Mayweather. Those untie this for Money i think.

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          • wmute
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            #115
            Originally posted by mellow_mood
            say what????

            so you mean.. that fighting with 16 years old in the amateurs.... is the same than fighting in 16 in the pros>>.


            aint the same... amateurs u have kids fighting kids.. unless you are fighting with a cuban....

            is not the same wmute. Im not dissing any fighter.. but lets just be real..

            you cant compare amateur with pro.
            You are right let's be real.

            Fighting at national golden gloves levelin US you are fighting some against top notch fighters.

            Fighting pros with losing records in Manila you are fighting bums.

            Now you want to tell me tha fighting for a piece of bread without headgear is tougher than fighting with a headgear with good nutrition and two contender/world champs as trainers, I will agree.

            But sorry being the best 106 amateurs in US is better than beating up bums in the Philipines.

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            • DIOS DOMINICANO
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              #116
              Originally posted by mellow_mood
              PRO AND AMATEUr

              ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS
              Size is size.

              Asian and Mexican fighters turn pro very early because of the economic situation and absence of a viable amateur system. Their early pro career is to be regarded as their amateur career. See Tony Margarito.

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                #117
                Originally posted by Southpaw16
                Oh, and what does it tell you when Pacquaio has openly talked about his desire to fight Margarito eventually? His career began at 106 pounds, nobody is asking him to fight Margarito, he may very well go out of his way to do it. Mayweather ran for dear life. Thats the difference.
                Challenge: find me a quote...or better yet, video.

                You are quite hyperbolic, sweetie.

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                • mellow_mood
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by wmute
                  You are right let's be real.

                  Fighting at national golden gloves levelin US you are fighting some against top notch fighters.

                  Fighting pros with losing records in Manila you are fighting bums.

                  Now you want to tell me tha fighting for a piece of bread without headgear is tougher than fighting with a headgear with good nutrition and two contender/world champs as trainers, I will agree.

                  But sorry being the best 106 amateurs in US is better than beating up bums in the Philipines.
                  if that is the case then you are right because i didnt think about that... since i live in pr 105 pro fights here are not for breads and all that you said.

                  i didnt think about that could be the case in phillipines...

                  so.. if some one from the phillipines could make this clear i'll appreciate

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                  • mellow_mood
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
                    Size is size.

                    Asian and Mexican fighters turn pro very early because of the economic situation and absence of a viable amateur system. Their early pro career is to be regarded as their amateur career. See Tony Margarito.
                    like i said in my previous post.

                    didnt think about that.. waiting for someone from phillipines to clarify this.

                    still.. i think more ppl would agree with me in that

                    amateurs & pro aint the same...

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                    • wmute
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by mellow_mood
                      if that is the case then you are right because i didnt think about that... since i live in pr 105 pro fights here are not for breads and all that you said.

                      i didnt think about that could be the case in phillipines...

                      so.. if some one from the phillipines could make this clear i'll appreciate

                      I dont know about bread exactly, I am trying to make a point that pac did not have an easy life when he was 16.

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