Calzaghe has Done More for the Sport of Boxing than Mayweather

[americanme]

Umm I'm sorry but are you seriously trying to argue that the SMW has been anything but basically crap it's entire existence?

I mean let's look at it: Jones and Toney hung out there for a minute and then left because it was worthless.

In fact the only really good borderline great was Joe himself.

Are you seriously ****ing bringing up the " at the end of the day" 2 wins of Joe's career?

Lacy was a hypejob and a joke. It is pathetic that Joe fans still bring this one up.

As for Kessler name one REALLY GOOD fighter he has beaten. I've asked this question for months now, and not one single good answer.

When Kessler beats someone good we can give two ****s that Joe beat him.

Andrade was really good.

AND im not claiming the SMW Dvision is great... but at the end of the day..what he and Bhop did was relatively the same. Except Hops lost to the undefeated up and comer at MW and Cal did not at 168.

They both moved to LHW and became the undisputed champion.

[IMDAZED]

Andrade was really good.

AND im not claiming the SMW Dvision is great... but at the end of the day..what he and Bhop did was relatively the same. Except Hops lost to the undefeated up and comer at MW and Cal did not at 168.

They both moved to LHW and became the undisputed champion.

What Calzaghe did wasn't the same as what Hopkins did. At all.

[bsrizpac]

Andrade was really good.

AND im not claiming the SMW Dvision is great... but at the end of the day..what he and Bhop did was relatively the same. Except Hops lost to the undefeated up and comer at MW and Cal did not at 168.

They both moved to LHW and became the undisputed champion.

Andrade? Come on man, that's reaching.

[americanme]

Umm I'm sorry but are you seriously trying to argue that the SMW has been anything but basically crap it's entire existence?

I mean let's look at it: Jones and Toney hung out there for a minute and then left because it was worthless.
In fact the only really good borderline great was Joe himself.

Are you seriously ****ing bringing up the " at the end of the day" 2 wins of Joe's career?

Lacy was a hypejob and a joke. It is pathetic that Joe fans still bring this one up.

As for Kessler name one REALLY GOOD fighter he has beaten. I've asked this question for months now, and not one single good answer.

When Kessler beats someone good we can give two ****s that Joe beat him.

RJJ had just as many fights at MW as he did at SMW..give or take one or two..

James Tony had just as many fights at MW as he did at SMW. give or take one or two...

so what on earth are you talking about sir?

[ulises_solis]

What Calzaghe did wasn't the same as what Hopkins did. At all.

it was the same he even broke hopkins record of defenses
except calzaghe opposition was more unknown
yet hopkins biggest wins are glorified former welters and he didnt manage to stay undefeated unlike joe

[americanme]

Andrade? Come on man, that's reaching.

So he isnt really good? ..

[americanme]

What Calzaghe did wasn't the same as what Hopkins did. At all.

what did Hopkins do that was different? .

[bsrizpac]

RJJ had just as many fights at MW as he did at SMW..give or take one or two..

James Tony had just as many fights at MW as he did at SMW. give or take one or two...

so what on earth are you talking about sir?

MW > SMW.

Roy has stated and has HBO that they left because there was little competition at SMW.

Are you really trying to say that SMW > MW ?

It's a joke division basically with the occasional star treating it like a pit stop some good to borderline very good fighters here and there and then pure **** beneath that.

[IMDAZED]

it was the same he even broke hopkins record of defenses
except calzaghe opposition was more unknown
yet hopkins biggest wins are glorified former welters and he didnt manage to stay undefeated unlike joe

Unknown to who? I know them quite well, speak for yourself.

Hopkins' wins are simply better, at middle and above. End of story.

[IMDAZED]

what did Hopkins do that was different? More defenses? that's about it.

Difference is not the question here. Quality of opposition is.