Calzaghe has Done More for the Sport of Boxing than Mayweather

[americanme]

Maybe Charles Brewer? Ring a bell?

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Brizpac just added Brewer to the JOKE list of defendes that Joe Cal had...

[Zocalo]

I didn't know being a complete jackass and putting down the sport actually does more for the sport compared to being relevant in the mainstreet and getting the casual fan to be interested in the sport.

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Brizpac just added Brewer to the JOKE list of defendes that Joe Cal had...

Exactly...and that's actually one of his better wins.

[bsrizpac]

whats elchols biggest win ?

Nice TRY EDITING your post:



Eric Lucas
Charles Brewer
Kabery Salem

As opposed to:

Branko Sobot who posts losses to:

Hacine cherifi
Mario Veit
haussler (LOL)
Norbert Nieroba (who?)
Konni Konrad
Arthur Abraham
Mger Mkrtchian

With his biggest "Win" probably being :

Admir Kurtic


LMAO.

[AntDawg]

to my knowledge most of ali wrestling career was in japan and in japan wrestlers are very respected even considered athletes not jokes like in the usa
plus back in the day wrestling was more respected not the joke that is the wwe
and calzaghe took a big risk by coming to the states and fighting hopkins knowing the huge ammount of corruption in las vegas
imo they shoulda fought in a neutral country

From what I remember Tyson also did stuff in the WWE.

[Abstraction]

it was the same he even broke hopkins record of defenses
except calzaghe opposition was more unknown
yet hopkins biggest wins are glorified former welters and he didnt manage to stay undefeated unlike joe

Unknown? That's because they were Mediocre or poor boxers!!

I mean come on, his record is awful.

This is what Calzaghe fans consider his best wins to be:
Eubank, (who lost 2 of his last 5 fights. An old Eubank was training for a CW or LH bout i believe, and finally chose to go to SMW late. Lost his next 2 fights and retired)
Robin Reid, (won a very close and debateable SD. Went on to lose to guys like Malinga and Ottke (lol). Wanted a rematch, Calzaghe refused)
Lacy, (very over-rated, Had this guy gone on to become Undisputed champion in the division, the fairplay to Calzaghe, but he's just become fodder in the division. Last i hear he was schooled silly by Taylor.) Makes you cringe when Calzaghe fans bring up Lacy as a big win, especially on a Boxing forum.
Kessler,(imo Calzaghe's best win. But again, who has he beaten. Has had one "Big" fight, and lost, that was to Joe.)
Hopkins, ( The guy is 43 and was close to retiring for real this time. Even then, many had Hopkins winning the bout, including Associated Press, ESPN and Yahoo Sports), Calzaghe flips out whenever his name is mentioned and always dismissed a rematch.
RJJ, ( Is 40, Lost 3 of his last 6 bouts, career was as good as over when he was KO'd by Tarver 4 years earlier)


Hopkins has beaten:
Allen (2 times),
Glen Jonhson (who was undefeated),
Echols,
Trinidad, (undefeated and was expected to KO Hopkins)
Joppy,
De La Hoya,
Eastman,
Winky,
Tarver, (was expected to Humiliate Hopkins was favorite in nearly everyones books)
and Pavlik. ('nuff said)

Now don't get me wrong, im not saying Joe is a bad fighter, he is talented. But that's just it. He had the oppurtunity to go Prime v Prime with the likes of RJJ, Hopkins, Tarver, maybe even Winky and Toney.

But he was set on fighting in half-empty stadiums defending his shabby WBO belt. i mean it took him 10 years to unify the division. Then as soon as calls for him to meet Pavlik came, the biggest disgrace happened. His "Fear of Flying" was suddenly cured, and he went to go against 2 passed it legends, who at the combined age are 43.

Not to mention the fact that as soon as he sacked his promoter Warren, Warren laid down the gauntlet and expose Joe there and then, saying how he always wanted to pull out of bouts due to being nervous. He was scared of a loss like it was a bullet.

He is a much better boxer than Hatton, but Hatton gets more respect for going Prime v Prime against Mayweather. Sure the Money blinded him, and he got KTFO senseless, but look at his fans, and look at the handful of fans that Joe has.

Hatton may have a humuliating loss, but has got a lot more respect. Calzaghe on the other hand, undefeated, yet will not get recognition except from the Casual British boxing fan.

BTW, im not looking at race or anything, im British, i dont care where you are from, i like to look at things how they are.

[bsrizpac]

Unknown? That's because they were Mediocre or poor boxers!!

I mean come on, his record is awful.

This is what Calzaghe fans consider his best wins to be:
Eubank, (who lost 2 of his last 5 fights. An old Eubank was training for a CW or LH bout i believe, and finally chose to go to SMW late. Lost his next 2 fights and retired)
Robin Reid, (won a very close and debateable SD. Went on to lose to guys like Malinga and Ottke (lol). Wanted a rematch, Calzaghe refused)
Lacy, (very over-rated, Had this guy gone on to become Undisputed champion in the division, the fairplay to Calzaghe, but he's just become fodder in the division. Last i hear he was schooled silly by Taylor.) Makes you cringe when Calzaghe fans bring up Lacy as a big win, especially on a Boxing forum.
Kessler,(imo Calzaghe's best win. But again, who has he beaten. Has had one "Big" fight, and lost, that was to Joe.)
Hopkins, ( The guy is 43 and was close to retiring for real this time. Even then, many had Hopkins winning the bout, including Associated Press, ESPN and Yahoo Sports), Calzaghe flips out whenever his name is mentioned and always dismissed a rematch.
RJJ, ( Is 40, Lost 3 of his last 6 bouts, career was as good as over when he was KO'd by Tarver 4 years earlier)


Hopkins has beaten:
Allen (2 times),
Glen Jonhson (who was undefeated),
Echols,
Trinidad, (undefeated and was expected to KO Hopkins)
Joppy,
De La Hoya,
Eastman,
Winky,
Tarver, (was expected to Humiliate Hopkins was favorite in nearly everyones books)
and Pavlik. ('nuff said)

Now don't get me wrong, im not saying Joe is a bad fighter, he is talented. But that's just it. He had the oppurtunity to go Prime v Prime with the likes of RJJ, Hopkins, Tarver, maybe even Winky and Toney.

But he was set on fighting in half-empty stadiums defending his shabby WBO belt. i mean it took him 10 years to unify the division. Then as soon as calls for him to meet Pavlik came, the biggest disgrace happened. His "Fear of Flying" was suddenly cured, and he went to go against 2 passed it legends, who at the combined age are 43.

Not to mention the fact that as soon as he sacked his promoter Warren, Warren laid down the gauntlet and expose Joe there and then, saying how he always wanted to pull out of bouts due to being nervous. He was scared of a loss like it was a bullet.

He is a much better boxer than Hatton, but Hatton gets more respect for going Prime v Prime against Mayweather. Sure the Money blinded him, and he got KTFO senseless, but look at his fans, and look at the handful of fans that Joe has.

Hatton may have a humuliating loss, but has got a lot more respect. Calzaghe on the other hand, undefeated, yet will not get recognition except from the Casual British boxing fan.

BTW, im not looking at race or anything, im British, i dont care where you are from, i like to look at things how they are.

Pretty much perfect.

[mitch12]

All I can say is I have rewatched several of Floyd's fights and I can't even be bothered to watch most of Joe's once. Floyd has faced easily the higher level of opposition and been in the more exciting fights in addition to raising the profile of the sport a great deal more than Joe has. So yeah, it is no comparison, IMO at least.

this is about whose done more for boxing things like attendancies fans etc calzaghe wins .

[Ishy Aytan]

Unknown? That's because they were Mediocre or poor boxers!!

I mean come on, his record is awful.

This is what Calzaghe fans consider his best wins to be:
Eubank, (who lost 2 of his last 5 fights. An old Eubank was training for a CW or LH bout i believe, and finally chose to go to SMW late. Lost his next 2 fights and retired)
Robin Reid, (won a very close and debateable SD. Went on to lose to guys like Malinga and Ottke (lol). Wanted a rematch, Calzaghe refused)
Lacy, (very over-rated, Had this guy gone on to become Undisputed champion in the division, the fairplay to Calzaghe, but he's just become fodder in the division. Last i hear he was schooled silly by Taylor.) Makes you cringe when Calzaghe fans bring up Lacy as a big win, especially on a Boxing forum.
Kessler,(imo Calzaghe's best win. But again, who has he beaten. Has had one "Big" fight, and lost, that was to Joe.)
Hopkins, ( The guy is 43 and was close to retiring for real this time. Even then, many had Hopkins winning the bout, including Associated Press, ESPN and Yahoo Sports), Calzaghe flips out whenever his name is mentioned and always dismissed a rematch.
RJJ, ( Is 40, Lost 3 of his last 6 bouts, career was as good as over when he was KO'd by Tarver 4 years earlier)


Hopkins has beaten:
Allen (2 times),
Glen Jonhson (who was undefeated),
Echols,
Trinidad, (undefeated and was expected to KO Hopkins)
Joppy,
De La Hoya,
Eastman,
Winky,
Tarver, (was expected to Humiliate Hopkins was favorite in nearly everyones books)
and Pavlik. ('nuff said)

Now don't get me wrong, im not saying Joe is a bad fighter, he is talented. But that's just it. He had the oppurtunity to go Prime v Prime with the likes of RJJ, Hopkins, Tarver, maybe even Winky and Toney.

But he was set on fighting in half-empty stadiums defending his shabby WBO belt. i mean it took him 10 years to unify the division. Then as soon as calls for him to meet Pavlik came, the biggest disgrace happened. His "Fear of Flying" was suddenly cured, and he went to go against 2 passed it legends, who at the combined age are 43.

Not to mention the fact that as soon as he sacked his promoter Warren, Warren laid down the gauntlet and expose Joe there and then, saying how he always wanted to pull out of bouts due to being nervous. He was scared of a loss like it was a bullet.

He is a much better boxer than Hatton, but Hatton gets more respect for going Prime v Prime against Mayweather. Sure the Money blinded him, and he got KTFO senseless, but look at his fans, and look at the handful of fans that Joe has.

Hatton may have a humuliating loss, but has got a lot more respect. Calzaghe on the other hand, undefeated, yet will not get recognition except from the Casual British boxing fan.

BTW, im not looking at race or anything, im British, i dont care where you are from, i like to look at things how they are.

Couldnt have put it better myself... Give yourself a pat on the back...

[bsrizpac]

this is about whose done more for boxing things like attendancies fans etc calzaghe wins .

Where ? In sheep****ville? Because in the U.S he hasn't....