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  • #41
    Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
    So if you could do it a boxer could do it too!!! And really five pounds is still a good ammount of food and water so again a buffer does very little to stop a fighter from having size and weight advantages.
    5 lbs yea.... thats understandable..... but anything over 10 is toooo much........ if you gain ten lbs over night, then you should be fighting in a weight class highr than the one you weighed in for

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    • #42
      Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
      Im not saying that your wrong I'm just saying that you opinion does very little to actually solve the issue.

      Fighters don't gain 15 pounds because they need to they do it because they can. If you trained hard for a fight for 2 months straight and you had a chance to eat whatever you want for one day are you gonna eat just a little bit or are you gonna eat a lot?

      It's not gonna kill the bigger fighter to only gain 5 pounds instead 15 pounds and the advantage still goes to the bigger fighter.

      The thing is you're putting to much into the whole weight thing

      Lets say Margarito and Floyd fought tomarrow and both had to weigh in at 147 and both fighters met the weight.

      Does that suddenly make Floyd just as big as Tony??

      Does Floyd Suddenly become just as strong as Tony???

      **** no!!! So even in a perfect world with all weight being equal you would still have fighters that are bigger and stronger.
      Which is why there are weight classes. How can PBF and Williams both be in the same division when there's such a disparity between their ring weights? It's effectively a welterweight facing a middleweight.

      Fighters don't just gain weight after the weigh-in because they can, unless they're particularly indisciplined, they do it because weighing an extra 10-15lbs is to their benefit. I wonder, could Margarito and Williams fight effectively were they forced to weigh 147 on fight night, or would they be fighting at 154 and 160?

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      • #43
        Originally posted by pistol whip View Post
        It's not about right or wrong with me it's just that i don't ***ing care. It's a non issue that makes very little diffrence in the fight. In fact I think reach is more of an advantage than weight and reach is just somthing that other fighters have no matter what weight class they are in.
        if fighters have natural advantages then they should use them. weight, however, is controlable. thats a way to provide some type of even grounds

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        • #44
          The point to be made is that it's an easy rule to exploit and of course fighters will take advantage of it. Whether they change it is highly doubtful.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Spacey1991 View Post
            Yeah I understand what you are saying, if they are given the opportunity then obviously they are going to take it... and you say about because your heavier it doesn't make you stronger but it does help. Obviously if somebody can put on loads of weight they will, but I am just saying that there should be a limit on it because 15-20 pounds is too much... I could agree with 10 pounds more at max, and I mean max lol.

            Also in the quote you said "It's not gonna kill the bigger fighter to only gain 5 pounds instead 15 pounds and the advantage still goes to the bigger fighter." Yeah if you put on 5 pounds instead of 15 you may still have an advantage but it lowers the advantage, making it more competitive.

            To be fair, I think we both disagree on the situation.. and we are not going to agree on this one if you know what I mean. You have gave some good points and I have gave some good points but i think we are both thinking differently.
            yeah we should just agree to disagree and i have to say it's good to debate with somone and not hve the conversation turn into a bunch of personal attacks.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
              5 lbs yea.... thats understandable..... but anything over 10 is toooo much........ if you gain ten lbs over night, then you should be fighting in a weight class highr than the one you weighed in for
              Some guys can't fight at higher weight classes...might look like this if they move up. (for some)

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              • #47
                You should not rehyrdate over 5 pounds

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
                  if fighters have natural advantages then they should use them. weight, however, is controlable. thats a way to provide some type of even grounds

                  But my question is where is the advantage? Often times the bigger fighter is the slower underskilled fighter(Margarito) but the smaller fighter is the faster and more skilled fighter(Mayweather). So if the faster fighter uses his footwork and hand speed advantage then he negates any size advantage the other fighter might have. So again how is this even an issue? size has ton's of disadvantages too and what it comes down to is who is simply the better fighter.

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                  • #49
                    Joshua Clottey from 147 - 170 pounds in fight night...

                    Victor Ortiz from 140 - 156 at fight night...

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
                      5 lbs yea.... thats understandable..... but anything over 10 is toooo much........ if you gain ten lbs over night, then you should be fighting in a weight class highr than the one you weighed in for
                      And weighing in 10 pounds over on fight night is all determined by your eating habits and really isn't anything thats determined naturally. All the bigger fighter has to do is eat a little less and wallah he still is bigger and stronger come fight night.

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