Fighters putting on many pounds on fight night...

[AntDawg]

Maybe your weight drained comment is right but, I think it is a little bit ****** that in a welterweight bout, both or just on of the fighters are going into the ring as a middleweight (in pounds)... it kind of loses the meaning of weight classes because your a middleweight fighting in a welterweight bout... I am not saying fighters shouldn't be able to put on a few pounds after the weight in and before fight night but I think it should be strictly limited... that's why I say 5-6 pounds more is okay, anything more isn't... like I read in a previous post about the most someone has put on over night is 23 pounds... that's unfair on other fighters and it is basically cheating the weight system... I think it should be 5-6 pounds max on fight night, it will make bouts more fair.

That wasn't really a welterweight fight..it was a catchweight of 150 and Corrales went up to 160 while Clottey went up to 170

[Spacey1991]

Holy ****.

Clottey weighed 23 pounds over night ?

How the hell is that POSSIBLE?

I don't know how it is possible either, that is what I am trying to say about putting up a limit on how much weight you can put on after the weight-in.

23 pounds though... WOW! lol

[pistol whip]

Yeah but there is a difference between putting on 10-15 pounds and putting on 5 pounds. If you have to dehydrate yourself to make the weight, and then pig out so u way 15 pounds over the actual limit... then you should be fighting at a higher weight class.



I can have my opinion on what I think is right and wrong... as i have said before, nobodies opinion is wrong, not yours and not mine. But if there is a second weigh-in let's say 3-4 hours before the fight... there wouldn't be as much time to put on more weight... making it fairer. All I am saying that if there was a slight limit on putting on weight after weigh-ins then the fight would be fairer, I just don't like the fact that people can fight in welterweight... or lightweight... or any other weight class (besides heavyweight) when in the fight they are weight the same as people who are in 2 weight classes above them.

Im not saying that your wrong I'm just saying that you opinion does very little to actually solve the issue.

Fighters don't gain 15 pounds because they need to they do it because they can. If you trained hard for a fight for 2 months straight and you had a chance to eat whatever you want for one day are you gonna eat just a little bit or are you gonna eat a lot?

It's not gonna kill the bigger fighter to only gain 5 pounds instead 15 pounds and the advantage still goes to the bigger fighter.

The thing is you're putting to much into the whole weight thing

Lets say Margarito and Floyd fought tomarrow and both had to weigh in at 147 and both fighters met the weight.

Does that suddenly make Floyd just as big as Tony??

Does Floyd Suddenly become just as strong as Tony???

**** no!!! So even in a perfect world with all weight being equal you would still have fighters that are bigger and stronger.

[Spacey1991]

That wasn't really a welterweight fight..it was a catchweight of 150 and Corrales went up to 160 while Clottey went up to 170

I didn't know that... but I have still read on another post in this thread that Gatti or somebody put on something like 19 pounds after the weigh-in... which is in my opinion too much.

[a-raines21]

Im not saying that your wrong I'm just saying that you opinion does very little to actually solve the issue.

Fighters don't gain 15 pounds because they need to they do it because they can. If you trained hard for a fight for 2 months straight and you had a chance to eat whatever you want for one day are you gonna eat just a little bit or are you gonna eat a lot?
It's not gonna kill the bigger fighter to only gain 5 pounds instead 15 pounds and the advantage still goes to the bigger fighter.

The thing is you're putting to much into the whole weight thing

Lets say Margarito and Floyd fought tomarrow and both had to weigh in at 147 and both fighters met the weight.

Does that suddenly make Floyd just as big as Tony??

Does Floyd Suddenly become just as strong as Tony???

**** no!!! So even in a perfect world with all weight being equal you would still have fighters that are bigger and stronger.

i would eat a little bit. mostley carbs and protein so that i could be more explosive.... save the pigging out for after the fight ya know

and the heavier you are the more punishment you can take.......... a ww isnt gonna knock out ahw.... why do u think that is?

[pistol whip]

I didn't know that... but I have still read on another post in this thread that Gatti or somebody put on something like 19 pounds after the weigh-in... which is in my opinion too much.

The guy gatti gained 19 pounds against used to fight at 154 which was a full division higher than any division gatti ever fought at.

[a-raines21]

The guy gatti gained 19 pounds against used to fight at 154 which was a full division higher than any division gatti ever fought at.

so you think its okay to walk into the ring sooooooo heavy against a guy that u are suppose to be the same size as?

[pistol whip]

i would eat a little bit. mostley carbs and protein so that i could be more explosive.... save the pigging out for after the fight ya know

So if you could do it a boxer could do it too!!! And really five pounds is still a good ammount of food and water so again a buffer does very little to stop a fighter from having size and weight advantages.

[Spacey1991]

Im not saying that your wrong I'm just saying that you opinion does very little to actually solve the issue.

Fighters don't gain 15 pounds because they need to they do it because they can. If you trained hard for a fight for 2 months straight and you had a chance to eat whatever you want for one day are you gonna eat just a little bit or are you gonna eat a lot?

It's not gonna kill the bigger fighter to only gain 5 pounds instead 15 pounds and the advantage still goes to the bigger fighter.

The thing is you're putting to much into the whole weight thing

Lets say Margarito and Floyd fought tomarrow and both had to weigh in at 147 and both fighters met the weight.

Does that suddenly make Floyd just as big as Tony??

Does Floyd Suddenly become just as strong as Tony???

**** no!!! So even in a perfect world with all weight being equal you would still have fighters that are bigger and stronger.

Yeah I understand what you are saying, if they are given the opportunity then obviously they are going to take it... and you say about because your heavier it doesn't make you stronger but it does help. Obviously if somebody can put on loads of weight they will, but I am just saying that there should be a limit on it because 15-20 pounds is too much... I could agree with 10 pounds more at max, and I mean max lol.

Also in the quote you said "It's not gonna kill the bigger fighter to only gain 5 pounds instead 15 pounds and the advantage still goes to the bigger fighter." Yeah if you put on 5 pounds instead of 15 you may still have an advantage but it lowers the advantage, making it more competitive.

To be fair, I think we both disagree on the situation.. and we are not going to agree on this one if you know what I mean. You have gave some good points and I have gave some good points but i think we are both thinking differently.

[pistol whip]

so you think its okay to walk into the ring sooooooo heavy against a guy that u are suppose to be the same size as?

It's not about right or wrong with me it's just that i don't ***ing care. It's a non issue that makes very little diffrence in the fight. In fact I think reach is more of an advantage than weight and reach is just somthing that other fighters have no matter what weight class they are in.