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  • Spacey1991
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    #21
    Originally posted by Kid McCoy
    What is safe about a boxer facing an opponent from his own division who outweighs him by 15-20lbs? Say Floyd Mayweather takes on Paul Williams. PBF won't weigh much more than the welter limit, but Williams will weigh around 160 in the ring. That's not a fair fight, yet until recently they were in the same division.

    If there is such a disparity between their weights then they should not be in the same division. At the very least there should be a limit on how much a fighter can bulk up between the weigh-in and fight night.
    I agree with you there.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Spacey1991
      Yeah... I understand what you mean there and that is fair... it is a health and safety hazard for fighters to fight when dehydrated because it can cause them harm, etc.

      However, if you dehydrate yourself a few days before the fight... and then put on lets say 15 pounds... it diminishes the meaning of weight classes. .

      The thing is if you have a five pound buffer you are still diminishing the meaning of weight classes because essentially you make the fighters have to weigh in twice and instead of 147 being the limit for welterweights it just becomes 152 instead. And even with the 5 pounds buffer you still make no impact on the so called weight advantage. Bigger fighters will just keep from stuffing themselves the night before the fight and will just pig out after they weigh in for a second time. A dehydrated person only needs to gain back 3 pounds of their water weight to be fully dehydrated and we are talking about a person thats near death mind you. So essentially a 5 pound buffer would do very little to cut out the so called Weight advantages and just strengthens my point that it is impossiable to not have a weight advantage one way or another.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Spacey1991
        I agree with you there.
        Wrong!! All paul would have to do is eat a little less instead of stuffing himself after the initial weigh in. Unless you are going to weigh them right before they go into the ring which is unrealistic since it would cause a riot if a fight was cancelled right before the fighters walked into the ring becasue of a weigh issue.

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          #24
          Originally posted by cruzan mario
          I dont think the fighters can control what their body rehidrate to!!
          then they should fight at a weight closer to what they walk around at. I cant stand when a fighter comes into ther ring super heavy n ****

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            #25
            Originally posted by pistol whip
            The thing is if you have a five pound buffer you are still diminishing the meaning of weight classes because essentially you make the fighters have to weigh in twice and instead of 147 being the limit for welterweights it just becomes 152 instead. And even with the 5 pounds buffer you still make no impact on the so called weight advantage. Bigger fighters will just keep from stuffing themselves the night before the fight and will just pig out after they weigh in for a second time. A dehydrated person only needs to gain back 3 pounds of their water weight to be fully dehydrated and we are talking about a person thats near death mind you. So essentially a 5 pound buffer would do very little to cut out the so called Weight advantages and just strengthens my point that it is impossiable to not have a weight advantage one way or another.
            Yeah but there is a difference between putting on 10-15 pounds and putting on 5 pounds. If you have to dehydrate yourself to make the weight, and then pig out so u way 15 pounds over the actual limit... then you should be fighting at a higher weight class.

            Originally posted by pistol whip
            Wrong!! All paul would have to do is eat a little less instead of stuffing himself after the initial weigh in. Unless you are going to weigh them right before they go into the ring which is unrealistic since it would cause a riot if a fight was cancelled right before the fighters walked into the ring becasue of a weigh issue.
            I can have my opinion on what I think is right and wrong... as i have said before, nobodies opinion is wrong, not yours and not mine. But if there is a second weigh-in let's say 3-4 hours before the fight... there wouldn't be as much time to put on more weight... making it fairer. All I am saying that if there was a slight limit on putting on weight after weigh-ins then the fight would be fairer, I just don't like the fact that people can fight in welterweight... or lightweight... or any other weight class (besides heavyweight) when in the fight they are weight the same as people who are in 2 weight classes above them.

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              #26
              Originally posted by a-raines21
              then they should fight at a weight closer to what they walk around at. I cant stand when a fighter comes into ther ring super heavy n ****

              why when they are making the weight and not breaking any rules. I really think you just hate it when you favorite small fighter moves up to far in weight, gets beat, and you need a way to make excuse for him.

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                #27
                its not hard to make weight.... many fighters dont act as though boxing is their job because if they did, they would train everyday!!!!! and if they did train everyday, they would always be in fighting shape..... that alone would help them stabalize their weight, and would keep them within the limit of the weight class they fight in....... if that didnt do the trick then the fighter simply needs to move up in weight because he has an unfare advantage of natural size.

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                  #28
                  Holy ****.

                  Clottey weighed 23 pounds over night ?

                  How the hell is that POSSIBLE?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by pistol whip
                    why when they are making the weight and not breaking any rules. I really think you just hate it when you favorite small fighter moves up to far in weight, gets beat, and you need a way to make excuse for him.
                    to me if a fighter loses, it has nothing to do with size.... anyone can be outboxed. to me you should follow the rules of the sport. plane and simple. thats the point of a weight limit, if you go over it then its obvious that ur natural weight is in the next weight class up

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Thadrow
                      Holy ****.

                      Clottey weighed 23 pounds over night ?

                      How the hell is that POSSIBLE?
                      water weight.... ppl can shed up to 40lbs in water weight in some cases

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