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  • Ishy Aytan
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    #51
    Originally posted by Testdead
    Maybe Roy didnt duck that many but he fought too many bums in his career when there were plenty of other fighters to fight.

    Toney and Hopkins then its thread bare.

    Calzaghe's faced more bums than Roy.

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    • Ishy Aytan
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      #52
      Originally posted by deevel79
      The only thing i didnt like about Roy when he was in his prime was the fact that he didnt try to make big fights. He had a very lucrative HBO contract, and was satisfied with fighting civil service workers. The policeman, the garbage man, the sanitation worker, and the subsitute teacher.
      Surely Roy faced the best Light heavys out there. Who else could he have faced?

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        #53
        Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
        Pavlik, Froch, Hopkins (rematch), Tarver, and Johnson.....

        These are 5 fighters that are/were ready and willing to take on Calzaghe, but no the fights never happened. Why? Calzaghe would rather face guys like Manfredo Jr and Saiko Bika than take on real challenges.
        Pavlik aint worth it anymore after getting dominated by the guy he beat, Hopkins. And Pavlik was a nobody back then before he fought Miranda and Taylor. Froch? Easy pickings, adds nothing to his resume, Tarver has a rematch with Dawson. I agree with you on Johnson because Zag backed out three times.

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        • hammerhiem
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          #54
          Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
          Pavlik, Froch, Hopkins (rematch), Tarver, and Johnson.....

          These are 5 fighters that are/were ready and willing to take on Calzaghe, but no the fights never happened. Why? Calzaghe would rather face guys like Manfredo Jr and Saiko Bika than take on real challenges.
          Pavlik: 160 fighter, would have got obliterated, instead fought Hopkins much better matchup in anyones estimation.

          Froch: You are taking the piss, there are 8 names AT LEAST better on calzaghes resume better than Froch

          Tarver: shot

          Johnson: When? at SMW in the early 00's? when johnson was 5 wins 6 losses or at LHW when jognson was older than RJJ and not as good a name?

          You need to do better than that.

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          • Ishy Aytan
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            #55
            Originally posted by Addition
            Pavlik aint worth it anymore after getting dominated by the guy he beat, Hopkins. And Pavlik was a nobody back then before he fought Miranda and Taylor. Froch? Easy pickings, adds nothing to his resume, Tarver has a rematch with Dawson. I agree with you on Johnson because Zag backed out three times.
            I understand what your saying... Its the same thing with Floyd, a Margarito fight in 06 makes no sense for some fight fans but he still gets stick for refusing it.

            Calzaghe's refused more fights than Floyd

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              #56
              Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
              I understand what your saying... Its the same thing with Floyd, a Margarito fight in 06 makes no sense for some fight fans but he still gets stick for refusing it.

              Calzaghe's refused more fights than Floyd
              Dont know if you've read it or not, but this is why i give Floyd **** for not fighting Marg in 06. Read it and give me your opinion.

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              • Ishy Aytan
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                #57
                Originally posted by hammerhiem
                Pavlik: 160 fighter, would have got obliterated, instead fought Hopkins much better matchup in anyones estimation.

                Froch: You are taking the piss, there are 8 names AT LEAST better on calzaghes resume better than Froch

                Tarver: shot

                Johnson: When? at SMW in the early 00's? when johnson was 5 wins 6 losses or at LHW when jognson was older than RJJ and not as good a name?

                You need to do better than that.
                Dont make excuses for why Calzaghe did'nt face them. A Tarver win is still greater than a Manfedo Jr win.

                These are the same guys that critisize Floyd for not taking on Margarito...
                ONE FIGHT! This is what i cant understand. Calzaghe fans always critisize Floyd but should'nt because they should look at the guys Calzaghe did'nt face when called out.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by deevel79
                  Which fighter do you feel avoided fighting the best possible opposition while in thier prime. Vote and explain.
                  LOL AT PEOPLE VOTING FLOYD. Yeah the fact FraudZaghe was fighting bums for 10 years had to do with boxing discriminating against white people from Europe, rght? . FACTS? FACT: Nationality has little to do with getting chances, if you're white, can speak english and are a ****y sob, you just don't get denied. If you make make PPVS out of shot Jones and 43 year old Hopkins, you are a draw. Question is, why only now? Answer: Because you are a coward Joe Calzaghe, you are nothing about boxing, all about being yet another fraud like Marciano. Decent white fighters like Abraham, the Klitschkos, Pavlik must be ashamed. You just don't cut it for anyone really.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ishy Aytan
                    Dont make excuses for why Calzaghe did'nt face them. A Tarver win is still greater than a Manfedo Jr win.

                    These are the same guys that critisize Floyd for not taking on Margarito...
                    ONE FIGHT! This is what i cant understand. Calzaghe fans always critisize Floyd but should'nt because they should look at the guys Calzaghe did'nt face when called out.
                    BS thats the most pathetic list of "Ducking" i have ever seen, it more than laughable.

                    If thats the best you can come up with you should just STFU and post about something else.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by deevel79
                      Dont know if you've read it or not, but this is why i give Floyd **** for not fighting Marg in 06. Read it and give me your opinion.

                      http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=185910

                      I always believed that Floyds intentions were to secure a De La Hoya fight first, but Oscar was out of the game for a while. Then he went scrounging for fights, thats when Margarito was offered... he refused. He took the Baldomir fight instead. I cant justify why he did'nt take Margarito... But thats one fight. There isnt no one else that called him out that he ducked.

                      The only thing i can say is that after he beat Judah, if he had'nt fought Baldomir, do you honestly believe he would'nt have got stick if he had'nt faced them? Be honest with me. I cant justify why he did'nt face Margarito, maybe he wanted a fight later on like he said, i cant say... nor can i make assumptions.

                      But truthfully say if he had'nt faced Baldomir, your telling me he would'nt have got stick for not facing him? Everyone would have jumped on it and made out as if ducked Baldomir. Thats the truth, theres always another opponent out there.

                      Like i've said previously, im a Floyd fan but moreover im a boxing fan. I want Floyd to fight Margarito. Im not a nuthugger, im a realist. I want to see the best fights out there and Floyd vs Marg is a great boxing match. Hence why i cant make excuses for him not fighting Marg, he'd always said he'd fight him after Oscar, but he has'nt as of yet... But you never know.

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