POLL: Joe Calzaghe vs Chad Dawson

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  • keepthemhandsup
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    #121
    Originally posted by Sweet Pea 50
    Adamek..........
    question...should it be at LW or CW?

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    • marco363
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      #122
      chad who? yeah, thats right.

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      • Sweet Pea 50
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        #123
        Originally posted by detluv
        question...should it be at LW or CW?
        I don't follow. Dawson already beat Adamek at LHW. You mean Dawson going up to cruiser and fighting him? Could happen. Might turn out different.

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        • WLAD_OWNS
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          #124

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          • Fox McCloud
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            #125
            Zaghe takes this one with lots of activity.

            Skilled pressure is the way to beat a slick boxer, and that is exactly what Calzaghe brings to the table.

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            • The Gunner
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              #126
              Dawsons another hype job created by the American public (man they love their hype jobs over there) just like Lacy, just like Pavlik and just like Berto as we're about to find out on Saturday.

              Please dont take what i'm saying as hate towards the states because most of my favs come from over the pond but they do love their hype jobs. Especialy when they compare them with Calzaghe.

              Dawson lost the Johnson fight in most peoples eyes, this is a version of Johnson who had just lost a close but clear decision to Clinton Woods, Clintons a B-level fighter with an A+ heart.

              This kid Dawson looks like a fighter who has no idea how to deal with pressure. We saw him flap against a dangerously weight drained Adamek and we all saw the Johnson fight.

              Calzaghe Lacys this kid, it would not even be close. B-Hop schools him too!

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              • Boxingwizard
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                #127
                Originally posted by The Gunner
                Dawsons another hype job created by the American public (man they love their hype jobs over there) just like Lacy, just like Pavlik and just like Berto as we're about to find out on Saturday.

                Please dont take what i'm saying as hate towards the states because most of my favs come from over the pond but they do love their hype jobs. Especialy when they compare them with Calzaghe.

                Dawson lost the Johnson fight in most peoples eyes, this is a version of Johnson who had just lost a close but clear decision to Clinton Woods, Clintons a B-level fighter with an A+ heart.

                This kid Dawson looks like a fighter who has no idea how to deal with pressure. We saw him flap against a dangerously weight drained Adamek and we all saw the Johnson fight.

                Calzaghe Lacys this kid, it would not even be close. B-Hop schools him too!
                Struggled? Everyone struggles against Glen Johnson, and the Johnson vs Woods fight was just as close as Dawson vs Johnson. Dawson dealt with Johnson's pressure pretty well, it's just that Dawson switched trainers before the fight and that affected his performance. Once there is a rematch it will be totally different. True Adamek was weight drained, but that's just an excuse, and he was still getting his ass kicked from rounds 10-12. As for Dawson vs Calzaghe, we'll see. And 44 year old B-Hop isn't going to school Dawson, not at his age. Dawson is the real deal, no hype job at all, and you watch the way he fights you can see that.
                Last edited by Boxingwizard; 01-16-2009, 03:19 AM.

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                • The Gunner
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by darkstar777
                  Struggled? Everyone struggles against Glen Johnson, and the Johnson vs Woods fight was just as close as Dawson vs Johnson. Dawson dealt with Johnson's pressure pretty well, it's just that Dawson switched trainers before the fight and that affected his performance. Once there is a rematch it will be totally different. True Adamek was weight drained, but that's not excuse and he was still get his ass kicked from rounds 10-12. As for Dawson vs Calzaghe, we'll see. And 44 year old B-Hop isn't going to school Dawson, not at his age. Dawson is the real deal, no hype job at all, and you watch the way he fights you can see that.
                  Everyone doesn't struggle against Johnson bud, Tarver clearly beat him IMO, Hopkins stopped him, Derrick Harmon beat him clear as day and i had Woods winning 8-4 in the 3rd fight (i had Johnson winning the first 2). Surely the "real deal" as you put it beats this guy? You cant blame the trainor here cause he was giving great advice between rounds telling Dawson to stay outside and use his jab. Dawson just didn't know how to impliment what he was being told.

                  Regarding Adamek.....Theres no doubt he was drained in that fight, his coach wanted him to vacate before he fought Chad and he looked ****** and drawn in the night of the fight.

                  Dawson also to me looks like his beard aint the best.

                  Oh, you cant be serious when you say Nard wont school that boy. It wouldn't even be close.

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                    #129
                    Originally posted by The Gunner
                    Everyone doesn't struggle against Johnson bud, Tarver clearly beat him IMO, Hopkins stopped him, Derrick Harmon beat him clear as day and i had Woods winning 8-4 in the 3rd fight (i had Johnson winning the first 2). Surely the "real deal" as you put it beats this guy? You cant blame the trainor here cause he was giving great advice between rounds telling Dawson to stay outside and use his jab. Dawson just didn't know how to impliment what he was being told.

                    Regarding Adamek.....Theres no doubt he was drained in that fight, his coach wanted him to vacate before he fought Chad and he looked ****** and drawn in the night of the fight.

                    Dawson also to me looks like his beard aint the best.

                    Oh, you cant be serious when you say Nard wont school that boy. It wouldn't even be close.

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                    • Boxingwizard
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by The Gunner
                      Everyone doesn't struggle against Johnson bud, Tarver clearly beat him IMO, Hopkins stopped him, Derrick Harmon beat him clear as day and i had Woods winning 8-4 in the 3rd fight (i had Johnson winning the first 2). Surely the "real deal" as you put it beats this guy? You cant blame the trainor here cause he was giving great advice between rounds telling Dawson to stay outside and use his jab. Dawson just didn't know how to impliment what he was being told.

                      Regarding Adamek.....Theres no doubt he was drained in that fight, his coach wanted him to vacate before he fought Chad and he looked ****** and drawn in the night of the fight.

                      Dawson also to me looks like his beard aint the best.

                      Oh, you cant be serious when you say Nard wont school that boy. It wouldn't even be close.
                      It had nothing to do with what he was being told because he was using the jab and staying on the outside, it's just that Johnson fought a great fight. There is a reason why Dawson looked like **** against Johnson and looked great against Tarver. Eddie Mustafa and Floyd Mayweather Sr. have different training methods. Mayweather Sr. has intense workouts, very strict, likes to have his fighters work on the jab and defense, and Dawson during that time had defensive problems. The switch from Mayweathe Sr. to Mustafa hindered his defensive development.

                      As for Hopkins, Dawson is younger and getting better he will beat the **** out of Nard. Nard has problems with fighters that have volume and speed, like Taylor. Dawson is a much better fighter than Taylor.

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