ROY JONES & MAYWEATHER = Same Career Moves -( DIFFERENT Treatment!!!)

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  • Horus
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    #71
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    i said, and made ricky MOVE UP - to 147lbs... WHERE ricky is horrible....

    Roy didnt make tarver move to Heavyweight to fight him.

    he fought the best LHW at LHW...

    Floyd fought the best JR WW, at WW....
    Floyd didnt make ricky Moved up is what i am telling you..
    Ricky didnt want to fight at 140 is what I am telling you.
    He didnt want to put his titles on the line.
    He wanted floyd's titles...

    Ricky knew if he lost at 140 he would have nothing. but if he lost at 147 he still be the king at 140 with the titles he still holds.

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    • THE REED
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      #72
      Originally posted by Horus
      Floyd didnt make ricky Moved up is what i am telling you..
      Ricky didnt want to fight at 140 is what I am telling you.
      He didnt want to put his titles on the line.
      He wanted floyd's titles...

      Ricky knew if he lost at 140 he would have nothing. but if he lost at 147 he still be the king at 140 with the titles he still holds.
      well then forget who wanted what...

      Fact: Roy fought the best at LHW at LHW

      Fact: Floyd fought the best JR ww... AT WW...

      it doesnt make a difference who wanted to what or why they did it.. .all that matters is what god damn happened.

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      • Horus
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        #73
        Originally posted by reedickyaluss
        well then forget who wanted what...

        Fact: Roy fought the best at LHW at LHW

        Fact: Floyd fought the best JR ww... AT WW...

        it doesnt make a difference who wanted to what or why they did it.. .all that matters is what god damn happened.
        QUESTION:
        How would you guys feel and would you be mad if Floyd came back and went back down to the Jr. Welter weight divsion OR Lightweight and fought JMM, Hatton,and Pacquaio?

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #74
          Originally posted by Horus
          Are you ****** just ******ed.

          What did Jones do at 160 thats compares to what floyd did at 130.
          Floyd is rightly consider as in the top 2 best 130 pounders ever if not the best.

          Roy is not consider the best 160 pounder not even in the top 10.
          Roy is considered the Light heavyweight ever.


          Roy Jones
          Light Heavyweight (172 lb+)

          From 1996 to 2003
          Roy fought at LHW
          Roy turn pro in 1993...

          So what does that tell you????


          It means that Roy was a Natural Light Heavyweight

          Floyd Mayweather

          From 1996 - 2002
          Floyd fought at Super Feather Weight
          Floyd turn pro in 1996

          what what does that tell you?

          It means that Floyd was a Natural Super featherweight
          how many great wins did floyd have at 130? genaro? corrales? chavez?

          how many belts did floyd have at 130? wbc? what else? he had one belt just like roy did at 160.

          roy beating hopkins at 160 trumps any win floyd has ever had at 130.

          the only difference is floyd stayed at 130 a lot longer than roy stayed at 160. it's not like floyd accomplished a lot more at 130 than roy did at 160.

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            #75
            Originally posted by El Dominicano
            Say, w/e happen to Dios?
            he got banned.

            hope he comes back. both dominicanos are cool in my book.

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            • HandSpeed303
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              #76
              Originally posted by Horus
              QUESTION:
              How would you guys feel and would you be mad if Floyd came back and went back down to the Jr. Welter weight divsion OR Lightweight and fought JMM, Hatton,and Pacquaio?
              my answer is no...but would you be mad? cause if he did that, he would be haunted by the ghost of margo, cotto, and paul williams forever...and you know it.

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              • MissDeeCole
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                #77
                well, then lets hope floyd comes back and fights until hes a bit older so he can also have the **** beat out of him by a guy or guys he has ducked throughout his career to also parallell Roy Jones.

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                • Horus
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by reedickyaluss
                  well then forget who wanted what...

                  Fact: Roy fought the best at LHW at LHW

                  Fact: Floyd fought the best JR ww... AT WW...

                  it doesnt make a difference who wanted to what or why they did it.. .all that matters is what god damn happened.
                  Ok Do we say that Thomas Hearns win over Roberto Duran is **** because
                  Duran is a lightweight who fought Hearns at middleweight?

                  do we say that Bernard Hopkins win over de la hoya is ****?

                  do we say that Marvin Hagler win over Roberto Duran is **** because
                  Duran is a lightweight who fought Hagler at middleweight?

                  what are you trying to say?

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                  • El Dominicano
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                    how many great wins did floyd have at 130? genaro? corrales? chavez?

                    how many belts did floyd have at 130? wbc? what else? he had one belt just like roy did at 160.

                    roy beating hopkins at 160 trumps any win floyd has ever had at 130.

                    the only difference is floyd stayed at 130 a lot longer than roy stayed at 160. it's not like floyd accomplished a lot more at 130 than roy did at 160.
                    Didn't you take "Its how you win that is also important" into consideration. Cuz alot of people said that wasn't a fight but a sparring match. Also wouldn't you say Chico> B-Hop at the time.

                    For example, Margarito beat Martinez...but Martinez has improved ALOT ever since...Can you really give Marg all the credit in the world for that win...say if Martinez became something?

                    Gotta admit that is a good example

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                    • Horus
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      how many great wins did floyd have at 130? genaro? corrales? chavez?

                      how many belts did floyd have at 130? wbc? what else? he had one belt just like roy did at 160.

                      roy beating hopkins at 160 trumps any win floyd has ever had at 130.

                      the only difference is floyd stayed at 130 a lot longer than roy stayed at 160. it's not like floyd accomplished a lot more at 130 than roy did at 160.

                      Mayweather is Considered the Greatest Ever at 130 by almost everybody.
                      Boxrec.com Has also RATED Mayweather the TOP 130 Pounder Ever Too:
                      http://www.boxrec.com/ratings.php?co...us=E&SUBMIT=Go
                      HERE IS WHY ALMOST EVERYBODY CONSIDERS MAYWEATHER THE GREATEST FIGHTER EVER AT 130:
                      Mayweather clean out 130.

                      130: Super Featherweight

                      The Top Four Recognized Fighters Were:

                      Genaro Hernandez
                      Angel Manfredy
                      Roberto Garcia
                      Diego Corrales


                      At Mayweather First Division at 130,He Dominated the Division.
                      He was Knocking out all top Contenders.
                      • To the Point that after only 2 years turning PRO He was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Division


                      http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1998

                      He Fought Genaro Hernandez who was 38-1-1 2 time World Champion. And The Reigning WBC world Champion. And The Ring Magazine Recognize World Champion of The Division.Who only Lost came from Oscar De La Hoya in which Oscar broke his in several places. .Which Happen 3 years Earlier

                      In that Fight Floyd Dominated the Recognize Champion at 130. and Officially Became
                      • The WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.
                      ...
                      not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but The Official Recognize WBC world Champion at 21 years old. And Now Recognize as The Ring Magazine number # 1 fighter in the division at 21 years old
                      and #8 on P4P list out of all the fighters in the world.

                      His Next Fight right After that Fight,Mayweather beat the guy who was RANKED number #4 ( Angel Manfredy) , And In that fight Mayweather Knocks Him Out in the 2nd.Round.

                      Now Mayweather had now beaten 2 out of the top 4 fighters in the 130 division. all before the age Of 22.And the 3rd of those 4 fighters was
                      • (Roberto Garcia who was 31-0 with 23 Knock Outs.)

                      And Floyd was about to fight Roberto Garcia, but Roberto Garcia decided to fight Knock Out Artist and Another P4P Phenomenal fighter in Diego Corrales.. Who out of 33 fights to that Point. only 5 fighters didnt get Knock Out.

                      Roberto Garcia was knock out in the 7th Round by Corrales. Now Instead of Floyd Fighting Roberto Garica, he nows finds himself in the position
                      of fighting the #5 Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport, and then #1 fighter at 130...Diego Corrales.

                      and In that Fight Floyd was a 2 to 1 Underdog, to not only lose to Corrales.But to get Knock out.

                      Floyd fights Corrales, The #5 P4P fighter in the sport and #1 fighter in the division, and in the fight compellingly outclassed
                      and Knocks out Diego Corrales in a 10 round 1 sided fight.

                      After that Floyd Completely Clean out the 130 Division with 8 title defenses, with 6 of those fights ending in Knock out.
                      • Floyd at 130 now can not get a big name fighter to fight him from Featherweight to Lightweight.


                      NOBODY..and when big name fighters did get approach about fighting Mayweather, they either demand a 55-45 split, or didnt return the call. So Floyd started calling out all the big names Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, everybody.
                      But Nobody wanted to fight. So instead of staying at 130 where no other big names will fight him at. He moves Up.

                      And his first fight was against the number # 1 guy at 135 JLC.


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