ROY JONES & MAYWEATHER = Same Career Moves -( DIFFERENT Treatment!!!)

[Horus]

u see what im sayin tho dom... i know 147 wasnt floyds BEST weight, but he undoubtedly proved eh could fight there and still beat just about everybody...

just like roy with 168 and 175

so its realistic to say floyd avoided threats at 147... his weight class... even though it may not have been his BEST in his entire career... 147 was undoubtedly his weight class at the time he retired

Floyd Mayweather was one of the best fighters in the world, but he doesn't technically belong to a weight class because he moves up and down in weight to fight. He could fight at Lightweight (135 lb), Junior WelterWeight (140 lb), Welterweight (147 lb) or Junior Middleweight (154).
Thats why he was Pound 4 Pound.

To ask him to clean out his 4th division when he been in 5 division Is ok, but it should not be Mandate in order to be consider great.

People forget.

The man clean out 130 which he fought from 1996-2002
The Man beat the recognize champ at 135.
The Man beat the former and current recognize champ at 147 when he got there like it or not if it was judah or bladomir. That doesnt take away from what he did at the time.

Look at it like this After only 2 years turning Pro

Floyd Mayweather was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Divison.... Only 2 years after turning Pro
(http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1998)

Floyd Mayweather was ranked 2th on P4P List in Only 3 years of After turning Pro Number 1 in his Division
(http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1999)

And We all know that he was recognized number #1 for almost 4 years ....

In a shorter period of time From a Ranking Stand Point Floyd Mayweather Has risen higher than anybody.

And that is because dude resume is Stacked...
Dude was a WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.... not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but WBC world Champion at 21 years old


FORMER WELTER WEIGHT CHAMPION
FORMER JR. MIDDLE WEIGHT CHAMP
FORMER JR. WELTER WEIGHT CHAMP
FORMER LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMP
FORMER SUPERFEATHER WEIGHT CHAMP
18-0-0, 9 KO’S IN CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS
9-0-0 (6) at 130 .
4-0-0 (1) at 135
1-0-0 (1) at 140.
3-0-0 (1) at 147.
1-0-0 (0) at 154.
18 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 166 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 9.8 ROUNDS
(63% of his pro rounds have been fought in championship fights)
38 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 265 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 7.0 ROUNDS
(45% of his fights have been championship fights)

1. Considered Greatest if His Generation
2. Undefeated
3. 39-0
4. 5 Weight Division
5. 6 World Class Titles
6. 50% of fights were Championship Fights

So i do not think it is required for Floyd to clean out the Welter Weight division in order to be consider great. Just Like Roy didnt have to clean out the Hw Division.

[Left Hook Tua]

floyd did not clean out 130 or 135.

he was the best at 130 and 135 but he did not clean it out.

[Horus]

floyd did not clean out 130 or 135.

he was the best at 130 and 135 but he did not clean it out.

Mayweather is Considered the Greatest Ever at 130 by almost everybody.
Boxrec.com Has also RATED Mayweather the TOP 130 Pounder Ever Too:
http://www.boxrec.com/ratings.php?co...us=E&SUBMIT=Go

HERE IS WHY ALMOST EVERYBODY CONSIDERS MAYWEATHER THE GREATEST FIGHTER EVER AT 130:
Mayweather clean out 130.

130: Super Featherweight

The Top Four Recognized Fighters Were:
Genaro Hernandez
Angel Manfredy
Roberto Garcia
Diego Corrales


At Mayweather First Division at 130,He Dominated the Division.
He was Knocking out all top Contenders.

• To the Point that after only 2 years turning PRO He was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Division

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1998

He Fought Genaro Hernandez who was 38-1-1 2 time World Champion. And The Reigning WBC world Champion. And The Ring Magazine Recognize World Champion of The Division.Who only Lost came from Oscar De La Hoya in which Oscar broke his in several places. .Which Happen 3 years Earlier

In that Fight Floyd Dominated the Recognize Champion at 130. and Officially Became

• The WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.

...
not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but The Official Recognize WBC world Champion at 21 years old. And Now Recognize as The Ring Magazine number # 1 fighter in the division at 21 years old
and #8 on P4P list out of all the fighters in the world.

His Next Fight right After that Fight,Mayweather beat the guy who was RANKED number #4 ( Angel Manfredy) , And In that fight Mayweather Knocks Him Out in the 2nd.Round.

Now Mayweather had now beaten 2 out of the top 4 fighters in the 130 division. all before the age Of 22.And the 3rd of those 4 fighters was

• (Roberto Garcia who was 31-0 with 23 Knock Outs.)

And Floyd was about to fight Roberto Garcia, but Roberto Garcia decided to fight Knock Out Artist and Another P4P Phenomenal fighter in Diego Corrales.. Who out of 33 fights to that Point. only 5 fighters didnt get Knock Out.

Roberto Garcia was knock out in the 7th Round by Corrales. Now Instead of Floyd Fighting Roberto Garica, he nows finds himself in the position
of fighting the #5 Pound 4 Pound fighter in the sport, and then #1 fighter at 130...Diego Corrales.

and In that Fight Floyd was a 2 to 1 Underdog, to not only lose to Corrales.But to get Knock out.

Floyd fights Corrales, The #5 P4P fighter in the sport and #1 fighter in the division, and in the fight compellingly outclassed
and Knocks out Diego Corrales in a 10 round 1 sided fight.

After that Floyd Completely Clean out the 130 Division with 8 title defenses, with 6 of those fights ending in Knock out.

• Floyd at 130 now can not get a big name fighter to fight him from Featherweight to Lightweight.

NOBODY..and when big name fighters did get approach about fighting Mayweather, they either demand a 55-45 split, or didnt return the call. So Floyd started calling out all the big names Shane Mosely, Oscar De La Hoya, everybody.
But Nobody wanted to fight. So instead of staying at 130 where no other big names will fight him at. He moves Up.

And his first fight was against the number # 1 guy at 135 JLC.

[Left Hook Tua]

like i said......floyd was the best at 130 and 135 but he DID NOT CLEAN IT OUT.

to clean out a division means beating all the top fighters and unifying the division.

floyd never cleaned out any division. the closest he came to getting another belt was when he beat diego who was the former ibf champ.

[GTL]

I'm Not reading thru 12 pages of BS..
Everyday Horus makes a thread.. What is the thread about??
Mayweather

The guy is either paid, or is letting floyd ram him in the ass..
My .02

[El Dominicano]

like i said......floyd was the best at 130 and 135 but he DID NOT CLEAN IT OUT.

to clean out a division means beating all the top fighters and unifying the division.

floyd never cleaned out any division. the closest he came to getting another belt was when he beat diego who was the former ibf champ.

He already did what he had to do at 130 and at 135 he faught JLC the best LW...I'll agree that he should have faught Casamayor

[Vladimir303]

Thread for 18 years old and under only.

[Left Hook Tua]

He already did what he had to do at 130 and at 135 he faught JLC the best LW...I'll agree that he should have faught Casamayor

i'm not saying he wasn't the best at 130 and 135.

i'm a floydhater but i give him his props for what he did at 130 and 135.

he beat the best opponent at 130 at the time in corrales and did the same thing at 135 with castillo.

to me those are his biggest wins.

but horus said he cleaned the division out. he did not.

to clean out a division is to beat a majority of the top 10 and unify the belts.

he did not do that. cleaning out the division is what calzaghe did at 168 with kessler and lacy. cleaning out the division is what hopkins did with tito and holmes.

to say floyd cleaned out 130 and 135 is technically incorrect. yes he beat the top fighters in that division but he did not clean it out.

sasakul was the best flyweight at the time pacquiao beat him. ledwaba was considered the best super bantam champ at the time pacquiao beat him.

you don't see me saying pacquiao cleaned out 112 and 122. he didn't. all he did was beat the best guy in the division and win a belt. was pacquiao the best at those weight classes at the time. yes you can say that but he did not clean out the division.

[El Dominicano]

i'm not saying he wasn't the best at 130 and 135.

i'm a floydhater but i give him his props for what he did at 130 and 135.

he beat the best opponent at 130 at the time in corrales and did the same thing at 135 with castillo.

to me those are his biggest wins.

but horus said he cleaned the division out. he did not.

to clean out a division is to beat a majority of the top 10 and unify the belts.

he did not do that. cleaning out the division is what calzaghe did at 168 with kessler and lacy. cleaning out the division is what hopkins did with tito and holmes.

to say floyd cleaned out 130 and 135 is technically incorrect. yes he beat the top fighters in that division but he did not clean it out.

sasakul was the best flyweight at the time pacquiao beat him. ledwaba was considered the best super bantam champ at the time pacquiao beat him.

you don't see me saying pacquiao cleaned out 112 and 122. he didn't. all he did was beat the best guy in the division and win a belt. was pacquiao the best at those weight classes at the time. yes you can say that but he did not clean out the division.

Understood and I would have rather have Floyd NOT to...considering there wasn't anyone else good enough to face.

[Left Hook Tua]

Understood and I would have rather have Floyd NOT to...considering there wasn't anyone else good enough to face.

forbes and spadafora would have been good wins.

casa and freitas would have been excellent wins.

if he had gotten the kostya fight instead of hatton that would've been a great win.

imagine......

corrales. castillo. kostya. hatton. gatti. spadafora. genaro. casamayor. freitas. judah. delahoya.

no one would dare question his resume.