yet another scenario where Floyd haters make me laugh

[El Jesus]

look i'm fine with floyd picking hatton and oscar over cotto and marg. financially we would all do the same thing. cotto and marg if given the opportunity would also.

i hate floyd but i'm not one of the bigger floydhaters on this site.

my problem with this thread is the threadstarter saying ducking cotto and marg should apply to pacquiao. that's just not the case.

pacquiao fighting at 147 for oscar is the equivalent of floyd fighting oscar at 154. did floyd stay at 154 after the oscar fight? then he's holding pacquiao to a HIGHER standard NOT applying the same.

thats mostly because oscar was basically the best fighter in that division. other than say, vernon forrest, wright i think moved to middleweight, then of course, when mayweather/spinks was about to come off, everyone on here lost their minds.

[Left Hook Tua]

Because people have been callin for Mayweather vs Cotto/ Margarito.

what does that have to do with pacquiao?

because he had 1 fight at 147?

like i said......that's holding pacquiao to a higher standard than floyd not the same standard.

floyd fought oscar at 154. you don't expect him to fight 154 guys do you?

manny jumped to 147 only for oscar. the equivalent of floyd jumping to 154.

this is nonsense.

knowing manny......i actually wouldn't be surprised if he does take a cotto or marg fight though. lmao

[Left Hook Tua]

thats mostly because oscar was basically the best fighter in that division. other than say, vernon forrest, wright i think moved to middleweight, then of course, when mayweather/spinks was about to come off, everyone on here lost their minds.

spinks-mayweather would have been a boring fight.

[Flawless.]

Where is MakeDamnSure

[El Dominicano]

what does that have to do with pacquiao?

because he had 1 fight at 147?

like i said......that's holding pacquiao to a higher standard than floyd not the same standard.

floyd fought oscar at 154. you don't expect him to fight 154 guys do you?

manny jumped to 147 only for oscar. the equivalent of floyd jumping to 154.

this is nonsense.

knowing manny......i actually wouldn't be surprised if he does take a cotto or marg fight though. lmao

Manny ain't no Pernell Whitaker/ Floyd Mayweather. I know he wouldn't beat anyone at 154...or a Margarito. Possibly a Cotto but IDK...Honestly, I want to see how BIG of a name Margarito will be once he is done with SSM and Cotto.

[Left Hook Tua]

Manny ain't no Pernell Whitaker/ Floyd Mayweather. I know he wouldn't beat anyone at 154...or a Margarito. Possibly a Cotto but IDK...Honestly, I want to see how BIG of a name Margarito will be once he is done with SSM and Cotto.

exactly. defensive fighters can go to higher divisions than offensive fighters. plus pac is smaller than those 2 anyway.

don't count shane out.

shane is one tough sob and he's still pretty skilled.

plus i have a feeling cotto will win the decision in the rematch.

[C.Y.]

tito's point is not valid. it's as valid as a hopkins fan and a floyd fan arguing about whose fighter was better and the hopkins fan saying floyd should fight pavlik.

pac is better than floyd through resume. i for one don't think pac is better skilled. i for one don't think pac can beat floyd head to head.

but as far as resume goes......pac is the greater fighter.

you know what u sound like a good poster so im gonna ask if you can help me out.. how is pacman's resume better than floyds?? honestly i dont see it and im not trying to hate but can you make a valid argument for manny having a better resume than floyd when his biggest fights were against fighters clearly past their primes?

[Left Hook Tua]

you know what u sound like a good poster so im gonna ask if you can help me out.. how is pacman's resume better than floyds?? honestly i dont see it and im not trying to hate but can you make a valid argument for manny having a better resume than floyd when his biggest fights were against fighters clearly past their primes?

just my opinion.

when you fight barrera in 2003 , marquez in 2004 and morales in 2005. that's brutal.

barrera was #3 p4p at the time manny fought him.

marquez was #6 p4p in 2004 and #2 or #3 p4p right now.

morales was #6 p4p in 2005.

people also underrate pacquiao's title wins at 112 and 122.

chatchai sasakul was the #1 flyweight in the world when manny beat him.

lehlo ledwaba was either #1 or #2 behind bones adams at super bantamweight and manny beat him as a short notice opponent. people forget that.

[C.Y.]

just my opinion.

when you fight barrera in 2003 , marquez in 2004 and morales in 2005. that's brutal.

barrera was #3 p4p at the time manny fought him.

marquez was #6 p4p in 2004 and #2 or #3 p4p right now.

morales was #6 p4p in 2005.

people also underrate pacquiao's title wins at 112 and 122.

chatchai sasakul was the #1 flyweight in the world when manny beat him.

lehlo ledwaba was either #1 or #2 behind bones adams at super bantamweight and manny beat him as a short notice opponent. people forget that.

ok good stuff..
i think marquez won both fights but i can see how the judges gave pac the victories.. some thought floyd lost against castillo.. I think pac's best win was against barerra the 1st time in 03.. but i thought he faced morales when he was past his prime.. its not pac's fault or anything but it is what it is.. i just think floyd's resume is more impressive but i guess we can agree to disagree

[Mr. Philadel]

Floyd didint "pass up cotto at every turn" cotto entered 140 and was there the same time as floyd, however if you know cotto at 140, floyd would have stopped him, probably within 8.

At 147 cotto didint get there until late 06 against quintana, floyd was chasing the DLH fight, he fought baldomir, a floyd fight then was completely out of the question. After fighting de la hoya, which was easily the most anticipated fight between late 06, early 07, he then fought ricky hatton, it was only after cotto defeated judah and then mosley there was some minor demand for the fight. Mayweather then knocked out hatton, should he have fought cotto at that point? Id like to have seen him do it, but neither side aggressively pursued it, at all.

What you are saying is basically false by all means when it comes to mayweather. Manny has been coming in at welter against lightweights for a year and a half, he just stopped dlh, and the guy has a point, alot of people are saying manny would have beat DLH at ANY point in his career, saying DLH isnt shot etc. If thats the case, pacman/cotto shouldnt be an issue, weather or not hes been fighting at 140/130 whatever, pac has been weighing in at welter for awhile, i see no reason he shouldnt get in there with cotto, since he is supposedly better than DLH since he stopped him and better than mayweather/rated higher than him

this is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.....best post so far!