yet another scenario where Floyd haters make me laugh

[tito yuca]

I find it hilarious how everyone is saying Manny is so much better than Floyd, yet everyone is also saying that Cotto-Pac can't take place because it's a huge mismatch. Those same dudes said that Floyd retired because he was scared of Cotto. The weight Floyd came in at his 154 fight is damn near the same weight Manny came in to his 130 fights, and at their 147 fights, their weight was identical on fight night.

So, I ask, if Manny is so much better than Floyd, why does Floyd's legacy suffer from not facing Cotto, but Manny should have no business fighting him? They are both the same size. The answer is something that I've said before: even the haters recognize Floyd's talent, and they are unaware of this. They demand him to do certain things, and at the same time, they say that fighters who they consider better than him should not be expected to do those same things. This glaring contradiction has always been pretty funny to me.

[MOREBASS]

SMH.

Floyd had fought at at least 140 since 2004.


Throughout the same timeframe, Pacquiao has fought above 130 only twice...once at 35 against Diaz, and obviously his fight against Oscar.


Where is this glaring contradiction you speak of ?

Floyd was the champion of the division that Cotto was a rising star in...same goes for Margarito.

This is why Floyd gets a lot of flack for not fighting them.

[FasTHarD]

I find it hilarious how everyone is saying Manny is so much better than Floyd, yet everyone is also saying that Cotto-Pac can't take place because it's a huge mismatch. Those same dudes said that Floyd retired because he was scared of Cotto. The weight Floyd came in at his 154 fight is damn near the same weight Manny came in to his 130 fights, and at their 147 fights, their weight was identical on fight night.

So, I ask, if Manny is so much better than Floyd, why does Floyd's legacy suffer from not facing Cotto, but Manny should have no business fighting him? They are both the same size. The answer is something that I've said before: even the haters recognize Floyd's talent, and they are unaware of this. They demand him to do certain things, and at the same time, they say that fighters who they consider better than him should not be expected to do those same things. This glaring contradiction has always been pretty funny to me.

It's not funny at all..

[El Dominicano]

It's not funny at all..

Not for a Pac **** rider like yourself.

[C.Y.]

SMH.

Floyd had fought at at least 140 since 2004.


Throughout the same timeframe, Pacquiao has fought above 130 only twice...once at 35 against Diaz, and obviously his fight against Oscar.


Where is this glaring contradiction you speak of ?

Floyd was the champion of the division that Cotto was a rising star in...same goes for Margarito.

This is why Floyd gets a lot of flack for not fighting them.

for all of pacman's fights at 130 and 135 he weighed at around 145 - 148 for each fight.. thats how much mayweather weighs when he has fought at welterweight and for that one fight againt oscar at junior middleweight.. basically manny and floyd are the same weight and size and floyd gets flack for not fighting certain fighters and manny gets no flack at all.. double standards basically.. haters will be haters

[tito yuca]

for all of pacman's fights at 130 and 135 he weighed at around 145 - 148 for each fight.. thats how much mayweather weighs when he has fought at welterweight and for that one fight againt oscar at junior middleweight.. basically manny and floyd are the same weight and size and floyd gets flack for not fighting certain fighters and manny gets no flack at all.. double standards basically.. haters will be haters

Exactly, and what makes it even worse is that these people say Manny is BETTER than Floyd.

[shadeyfizzle]

I find it hilarious how everyone is saying Manny is so much better than Floyd, yet everyone is also saying that Cotto-Pac can't take place because it's a huge mismatch. Those same dudes said that Floyd retired because he was scared of Cotto. The weight Floyd came in at his 154 fight is damn near the same weight Manny came in to his 130 fights, and at their 147 fights, their weight was identical on fight night.

So, I ask, if Manny is so much better than Floyd, why does Floyd's legacy suffer from not facing Cotto, but Manny should have no business fighting him? They are both the same size. The answer is something that I've said before: even the haters recognize Floyd's talent, and they are unaware of this. They demand him to do certain things, and at the same time, they say that fighters who they consider better than him should not be expected to do those same things. This glaring contradiction has always been pretty funny to me.

I believe the flack has been more about the fact that Floyd and Cotto have been fighting at the same weightclass for several years, had plenty of chances to fight him but passed it over at every turn for much lesser competition.

Meanwhile Manny had never weighed even close to the same range until about 2007. He obviously had plans to move up due to the hard time he was having making the weight. However he had unfinished business at 130 he wanted to take care of before moving up which was delayed because of the top rank/golden boy lawsuit

[nujabes77]

I find it hilarious how everyone is saying Manny is so much better than Floyd, yet everyone is also saying that Cotto-Pac can't take place because it's a huge mismatch. Those same dudes said that Floyd retired because he was scared of Cotto. The weight Floyd came in at his 154 fight is damn near the same weight Manny came in to his 130 fights, and at their 147 fights, their weight was identical on fight night.

So, I ask, if Manny is so much better than Floyd, why does Floyd's legacy suffer from not facing Cotto, but Manny should have no business fighting him? They are both the same size. The answer is something that I've said before: even the haters recognize Floyd's talent, and they are unaware of this. They demand him to do certain things, and at the same time, they say that fighters who they consider better than him should not be expected to do those same things. This glaring contradiction has always been pretty funny to me.

scared of cotto? what ass are you pulling your **** from?

dude if coot beats margarito on the rematch, mayweather stays retired nad pacquiao wins over hatton, then that's enough reason for the two to fight. right now there's no reason to


pacquiao doesn't pick his fights, you should try to get to know the guy more

[El Jesus]

I believe the flack has been more about the fact that Floyd and Cotto have been fighting at the same weightclass for several years, had plenty of chances to fight him but passed it over at every turn for much lesser competition.

Meanwhile Manny had never weighed even close to the same range until about 2007. He obviously had plans to move up due to the hard time he was having making the weight. However he had unfinished business at 130 he wanted to take care of before moving up which was delayed because of the top rank/golden boy lawsuit

Floyd didint "pass up cotto at every turn" cotto entered 140 and was there the same time as floyd, however if you know cotto at 140, floyd would have stopped him, probably within 8.

At 147 cotto didint get there until late 06 against quintana, floyd was chasing the DLH fight, he fought baldomir, a floyd fight then was completely out of the question. After fighting de la hoya, which was easily the most anticipated fight between late 06, early 07, he then fought ricky hatton, it was only after cotto defeated judah and then mosley there was some minor demand for the fight. Mayweather then knocked out hatton, should he have fought cotto at that point? Id like to have seen him do it, but neither side aggressively pursued it, at all.

What you are saying is basically false by all means when it comes to mayweather. Manny has been coming in at welter against lightweights for a year and a half, he just stopped dlh, and the guy has a point, alot of people are saying manny would have beat DLH at ANY point in his career, saying DLH isnt shot etc. If thats the case, pacman/cotto shouldnt be an issue, weather or not hes been fighting at 140/130 whatever, pac has been weighing in at welter for awhile, i see no reason he shouldnt get in there with cotto, since he is supposedly better than DLH since he stopped him and better than mayweather/rated higher than him

[MOREBASS]

for all of pacman's fights at 130 and 135 he weighed at around 145 - 148 for each fight.. thats how much mayweather weighs when he has fought at welterweight and for that one fight againt oscar at junior middleweight.. basically manny and floyd are the same weight and size and floyd gets flack for not fighting certain fighters and manny gets no flack at all.. double standards basically.. haters will be haters

Unofficial weigh ins are just that...unofficial.


If a guy can rehydrate and not have it affect his performance, then by all means, he's earned the right to fight at that weight.

The reason why I stated what I did is because of the opposition you face.

Floyd fought guys who were bigger, since 2004.

And in that same time stretch, Manny fought much smaller men.


Plus, Floyd retired when his division was stacked with talent. He will never get to live this fact down.