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Originally posted by J. HITTER
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True. Fairest thing would probably be Calzaghe-Hopkins 2 and Dawson-Johnson 2, and then the winners meet. I would rather see Calzaghe-Dawson, Calzaghe-Johnson is a good fight too. -
Yes they would all be good fights. Hopkins-Calzaghe 2 could be better since Hopkins himself said he is going for that knockout.Originally posted by Clegg View PostComment
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What a interesting comment!Originally posted by F•R•K•O View PostWho me? I actually said he has an excellent chin. You seem to choose to look only a small part of the picture though, sl333py. I try to take a look at the whole career and base my opinions on that.
Amateur record: 128-2
Hasn't lost a fight in almost 19 years. 1990 was the last time, and that loss was apparently controversial to the point of the judges who scored it being fired.
ABA champion for three consecutive years in three different weight classes. This hadn't been done for around 100 years, IIRC. Beating Calzaghe, even as an amateur, was a pretty big accomplishment.
21 title defenses as a pro.
11 years as super middleweight champ.
Unified all belts.
Gained The Ring belt on his first venture up to a higher weight class and did it on Hopkins' terms and choice of venue in the USA.
Suffered only four knockdown in his entire career. None of the knockdowns affected his performance. On the contrary, they made him fight better. Think of them as an alarm clock. They woke him up!
46-0-0 as a pro. Top 3 P4P.
Joe Calzaghe may not have faced the stiffest competition every time he fought, and for that, you can put a large portion of the blame on Frank Warren. But let's face it, who has faced the best every time? Nobody in the history of prizefighting! Hopkins? Jones? They faced a lot of below average fighters, too. It's not such a bad thing. At the very least they could be seen as "stay busy" fights and a way to pay the bills.
I'm a firm believer in the old saying "styles make fights". If we can say Joe faced 46 different styles, regardless of the level of competition, he has beaten all of them. The majority of his opponents were beaten soundly, and he has had very few difficult fights.
Add into the picture the fact that he was told as a 14 years-old boy that he would never be able to fight again due to hand injuries, and you can safely say Joe Calzaghe has done pretty damn well for himself.
Love him or hate him, he possesses something that the average fighter does not. You are entitled to hate him all you want, that's cool with me, but his achievements in boxing are rare. It's unfair to judge any fighter on his last few wins. Hopkins is old, yes, but he is still an awesome fighter (one of my all-time favorites), and let's not forget he backed out of the fight with Joe in 2002. It's no fault of Joe's for not fighting Hopkins sooner. Hopkins is old? That's Hopkins' own fault! He should have fought Joe when he was in his prime, and he had a chance to do exactly that, but he didn't take it. It's a shame, really. Could have been a much better fight than the pile of crap we saw a while back.
As for Jones, again, I think it's unfair to try and define his career by this win. Joe merely wanted the name on his resume and has made no secret of it. Personally, I judge him by his overall accomplishments from amateur to pro, which, in my opinion, are pretty outstanding.
No nuthugging here. Joe's just a great fighter and a rare breed. It's hard for me to disrespect him!
Carry on though.
His amateur record speaks for it self. If I could I would give you more karma. I see you as the best poster in here, you are not a fanboy or a nuthugger. You are not objective, but who the hell is objective? You are arguing based on facts.
Keep it up lad.
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if you're talking about calslappy, you wont get anything, the ****** guy is chicken ****!Comment
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You also have to assume that you have either been living under a rock or are mentally challenged.Originally posted by Malicious View Post
In fact, going by what else you have said, I'd say mentally challenged.
Johnson has the least chance of beating Joe out of the 3. All Johnson has is power. Watch some Calzaghe fights, and see what he does to power punchers.
Joe makes Dawson look silly, prompting all American posters to say they didn't realise how green he still was.
Joe will beat Hopkins more convincingly this time, prompting calls that Hopkins is even more shot than last time (conveniently forgetting the Pavlik performance).
Joe makes Johnson look what he is, too old to keep up with him. This will cause people to say that Joe waited till Johnson got old.
Joe can do nothing to get any more recognition amongst the general public, and most knbowledgable boxing people already have him as a HOF'er and ATG, so why should he bother fighting on?
I'm fed up of bitter yank cunts going on about who he should fight next, they just want him to fight on until he loses so they can say "I always told you he was overrated and would get exposed LOL!"Comment
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I wouldnt expect a CAlzaghe nut licker to even understand where my logic was pointed..Especially one with his name in his avi and headline and probably on his pajamas...What i was SAYING..Is that against elite fighters CAlzaghe hasn't proved to have this IRON chin that the thread starter was talking about..And i was SAYING that if Lacy was to drag Calzaghe in a two way war which he didn't, then he would've gave more testament to his weak chin than he did with jones and hopkins who have nowhere near the amount of power Lacy had..he took lacys heart early and made SURE he didn't get caught with one of those bombs, but Lacy was nowhere near the likes of Johnson or a Dawson at this point, Or Hopkins.. 2 of which could sustain an assault (maybe even 3 since Hopkins learned what happens after you let Joe off the hook) AND FINISH HIM ONCE THEY TAP THAT JAW...so to sum it all up for you ballboy, even with a victory over Hop and Roy, these old guys put Joe down early but neither reeled in the line once the fish was on the hook! And I think Johnson or Dawson would reel him in..get me now? good..Originally posted by x-PeROxiDE-x View PostComment
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what a shocker johnson's trainer thinks he would winComment
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Ok people are just starting to sound like calzaghe haterz now this is getting worser when floyd was around whooping ass.
Lets be honest here how much has glen got left? nothing.. it will be like oscar vs pacman all over again glen wont be able to pull the trigger and if he does so what? calzaghe has faced harder hitters then glen "sugar daddy" johnson lol.Comment
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why does glen have nothing left? cause you say so. oh alright sorry i thought you had real evidence but this will do.Originally posted by sterling View PostComment
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