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  • #41
    Originally posted by DavrosPremuleas View Post
    well that shows how bad some off Valuev's opponents have been, Chageav was the only other person i remember giving some fairly good movement and he beat him.
    But he could have cut off the ring, he could have closed in on him, he could have bum rushed him - he outweighed him by 100 f'ing pounds! But he did nothing except stand there like a giant cave man and lazily stick out his arm every now and then! I don't know, it looked weird to me...and then the way he seemed to anticipate getting the decision at the end. Maybe they told him not to hurt Holyfield, and they'll give him the decision anyway.

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    • #42
      "Maybe they told him not to hurt Holyfield, and they'll give him the decision anyway."


      I think that's what happened.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by werewolf View Post
        "Maybe they told him not to hurt Holyfield, and they'll give him the decision anyway."


        I think that's what happened.
        lol.. you just quoted yourself.

        Face it pal, the match was dull, but he owned Valuev. like you said, watch Valuev's other fights...
        Watch the Donald and Ruiz "fights".

        Did Valuev not want to hurt them either?

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        • #44
          It's an interesting theory. Valuev was definitely holding back. I just can't tell if it's because he just "didn't have" or not. I've seen Emaunuel Augustus deilberately hold back against Ray Olivera when Ray was obviously having some mental issues in the ring (which I think he just got frustrated and faked the issues). However, people are looking at Holyfield as a brittle piece of glass, who will shatter if tapped ever so lightly. One solid punch, and everyone expects Holyfield to collapse on the canvas with a brain bleed. The truth of the matter is... in small town shows accross the country (that never make it to Boxingscene) there are many guys fighting long into their 40s. Stacy Goodson has a guy in AR that still fights at 56 (circus act if you ask me). The truth is, more guys make it out of this sport ok than messed up. Geno McGahee of Ringside Report did at great article about a year ago where he found the overwhelming majority of lifelong injury or death has come to fighters who took punishing fights too young (late teens and early 20s) rather than in their twilight years. Early 30's is when boxers are considered at their peak, so Holyfield should think about hanging them up pretty damn soon... but he could still whip my ass in his sleep.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by minion View Post
            lol.. you just quoted yourself.

            ...
            Yeah, because thinking about it some more that's what I think happened. I could be wrong, of course, but that's what i think happened.

            Good post, Nathan.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by DavrosPremuleas View Post
              well that shows how bad some off Valuev's opponents have been, Chageav was the only other person i remember giving some fairly good movement and he beat him.
              Jean-Francois Bergeron, who was knocked out in two rounds against Dominick Guinn, moved around the ring against Valuev and made him look horrible.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by TheManchine View Post
                Jean-Francois Bergeron, who was knocked out in two rounds against Dominick Guinn, moved around the ring against Valuev and made him look horrible.
                I found a video of that one so I'm going to watch it now.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by werewolf View Post
                  I found a video of that one so I'm going to watch it now.
                  I thought I did, but it turned out to be just some bull****. Is a video of that fight available online?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by werewolf View Post
                    He was deliberately not fighting...And now they want a freakin' rematch? Lord hab mercy!
                    Originally posted by werewolf View Post
                    I've never been impressed with Valuev, but he is nowhere near THAT bad...
                    Yea, something was up.
                    It's as if Valuev was holding back. Either cause he didn't wanna hurt Holy, or maybe corruption.
                    And Holy looked asleep too!!! As if he wanted to take advantage of Valuev's inactivity, and avoided poking this bear with a stick. Also, I'm sure he wanted to conserve his energy for the later rounds, but he must've lost count, cause he never pulled the trigger.

                    I heard the rematch title will be called 'Sedated'.



                    [IMG]http://i423.***********.com/albums/pp312/anonymousboxing/holyvaluevthisisboring.gif[/IMG]
                    See for yourself. Download 'Fight'

                    Don't blame the judges...they fell asleep too.

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                    • #50
                      Ha ha! Where'd you get that cartoon? It tells the whole story in a nutshell!

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