Valuev was trying not to hurt Holyfield

**Enemy/Friend** · 12-22-2008, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by werewolf

He was deliberately not fighting. He's no Klitschko, but he's no helpless schmuck either. Look at his previous fights on Youtube and compare it with what he was doing the other night. He wasn't even making a show of trying - and Holyfield looked about as non-threatening as heavy bag. And yet, at the end, Valuev seemed to be anticipating the win. Something very funny about that so-called fight. And now they want a freakin' rematch? Lord hab mercy!

Werewolf,can I shoot you with a silver bullet?????

**werewolf** · 12-22-2008, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by Enemy/Friend

Werewolf,can I shoot you with a silver bullet?????

No. Any more questions?

**dans** · 12-22-2008, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by werewolf

He was deliberately not fighting. He's no Klitschko, but he's no helpless schmuck either. Look at his previous fights on Youtube and compare it with what he was doing the other night. He wasn't even making a show of trying - and Holyfield looked about as non-threatening as heavy bag. And yet, at the end, Valuev seemed to be anticipating the win. Something very funny about that so-called fight. And now they want a freakin' rematch? Lord hab mercy!

Maybe Valuev is just a out of shape fraud. He didn't feel bad for Evander, he just knew it was rigged and tried not to get in any exchanges so it could look any worse.

Holyfield deserves a rematch, in America, where you can't just win fights for being European.

**werewolf** · 12-22-2008, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by dans01234

Maybe Valuev is just a out of shape fraud. He didn't feel bad for Evander, he just knew it was rigged and tried not to get in any exchanges so it could look any worse.

Holyfield deserves a rematch, in America, where you can't just win fights for being European.

I've never been impressed with Valuev, but he is nowhere near THAT bad. Just watch his previous fights and compare it with what he was doing last night.

Please, don't give me that stuff about Europe. As if every other big fight in the USA hasn't had a ridiculously crooked decision coming out of the so-called judges. When big fights in the USA go to decision I EXPECT the decision to be backwards, and when it's not I'm rather amazed. Mills Lane talked about this in his book, *Let's Get It On*.

**werewolf** · 12-22-2008, 10:12 AM

And Mills Lane was only giving a very very mild and polite version of the truth.

**Enemy/Friend** · 12-22-2008, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by werewolf

And Mills Lane was only giving a very very mild and polite version of the truth.

Werewolf tell me more about this American corruption,please.

**dans** · 12-22-2008, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by werewolf

I've never been impressed with Valuev, but he is nowhere near THAT bad. Just watch his previous fights and compare it with what he was doing last night.

Please, don't give me that stuff about Europe. As if every other big fight in the USA hasn't had a ridiculously crooked decision coming out of the so-called judges. When big fights in the USA go to decision I EXPECT the decision to be backwards, and when it's not I'm rather amazed. Mills Lane talked about this in his book, *Let's Get It On*.

He was completely out of shape.

Yes there is corruption in America too, but there's no doubt in my mind that if the fight was in America, Holyfield would've gotten the right decision.

I have to respect you though after you tricked me into that Rahman bet.

**Miburo** · 12-22-2008, 10:29 AM

It would be very hard for anyone to really hurt Holyfield, even this deteriorated version. His chin is too good for his own good at this point.

**larryx** · 12-22-2008, 10:40 AM

no one else showed the laterall movement holyfield showed..valuez couldnt get set to hit him

Valuev was trying not to hurt Holyfield