Sameday weigh in's and Margarito. Why you are wrong!!!!

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By Margaret Goodman, M.D.
Buzz up!
When I became a ring physician in 1994, I was naïve about the boxing business. But as I became more involved in the sport on a local and national level, the outright refusal by many officials to implement desperately needed changes to protect fighters and improve safety became suffocating.

Why the delay? Is it just naivete on the part of others? Or is safety often too complicated a distraction? And when is naivete merely blind ignorance?

While safety in sports like NASCAR and professional football has evolved, boxing safety has not, at least not sufficiently. Commissions concentrate on deflecting blame rather than ensuring that federal law is followed. Accountability simply doesn’t exist.

Let’s simplify the matter and start not with what we wish, but what we can change now to advance boxer protection. Five changes that could improve fighter safety:

1. Go back to same-day weigh-ins

If an athlete is well-conditioned, the timing of the weigh-in shouldn’t matter. For generations, the weigh-in took place the day of the fight. Boxers would step on a scale, drink a cup of water and step in the ring. But some of them came into a bout so dry they were unable to give a good performance. They often failed to replace essential fluids and therefore couldn’t address problems on a cellular level that resulted from dehydrating to make weight.

In the mid-1980s, the weigh-in was pushed back to 24-hours before a bout to address the dehydration issue. Many were optimistic this would be a springboard to educate fighters and trainers about the dangers of dehydration.

Unfortunately, the day-before-the-fight weigh-in has become an agent of unfairness contradictory to fighter safety. Contracts are too often based on earning power and not body size, meaning boxers are competing in weight classes in which they don’t belong. With many weigh-ins taking place more than 24 hours before the bout, fighters are not just replenishing water but actually gaining weight.

Same-day weigh-ins would force fighters to compete in a weight class where they belong. Also, if they would show up at the weigh-in (no more than 12 hours before the bout) dehydrated, they simply wouldn’t be cleared to fight.

The cost to return to same-day weigh-ins would be negligible. Over a short period of time, it would encourage fighters to compete in a weight class in which they belong. Fights would be fairer, and there would be less wear and tear on the fighter’s body. And, ultimately, healthy, well-hydrated fighters make for more exciting fights.

Boxing needs to admit its mistake and revert to same-day weigh-ins.

Hooray you used a doctor who was actually fined for lying about her certifications as a Doctor and was even fined for lying about it

http://www.reviewjournal.com/db/doctorreview.detail?id=1033

Board of Medical Examiners Doctor Disciplinary Records for Nevada
Name Goodman, Margaret E.
Title M.D.
Year of Action 1997
Newsletter Volume 17
Complaint Complaint Filed: 1/24/97 - Charged with 1 count of violation of NRS 630.306(2)(a) engaging in any conduct which is intended to deceive.
Action
"Board Action: 3/18/97 - Entered into a Stipulation for Settlement and Ordered Dr. Goodman to pay the sum of $5,000 as disgorgement of payments which may have been received by her having engaged in conduct intended to deceive in that she, on numerous occasions, knowingly and falsely misrepresented herself as an ABPN Board Certified neurologist, when in fact she was not."

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By Margaret Goodman, M.D.
Buzz up!
When I became a ring physician in 1994, I was naïve about the boxing business. But as I became more involved in the sport on a local and national level, the outright refusal by many officials to implement desperately needed changes to protect fighters and improve safety became suffocating.

Why the delay? Is it just naivete on the part of others? Or is safety often too complicated a distraction? And when is naivete merely blind ignorance?

While safety in sports like NASCAR and professional football has evolved, boxing safety has not, at least not sufficiently. Commissions concentrate on deflecting blame rather than ensuring that federal law is followed. Accountability simply doesn’t exist.

Let’s simplify the matter and start not with what we wish, but what we can change now to advance boxer protection. Five changes that could improve fighter safety:

1. Go back to same-day weigh-ins

If an athlete is well-conditioned, the timing of the weigh-in shouldn’t matter. For generations, the weigh-in took place the day of the fight. Boxers would step on a scale, drink a cup of water and step in the ring. But some of them came into a bout so dry they were unable to give a good performance. They often failed to replace essential fluids and therefore couldn’t address problems on a cellular level that resulted from dehydrating to make weight.

In the mid-1980s, the weigh-in was pushed back to 24-hours before a bout to address the dehydration issue. Many were optimistic this would be a springboard to educate fighters and trainers about the dangers of dehydration.

Unfortunately, the day-before-the-fight weigh-in has become an agent of unfairness contradictory to fighter safety. Contracts are too often based on earning power and not body size, meaning boxers are competing in weight classes in which they don’t belong. With many weigh-ins taking place more than 24 hours before the bout, fighters are not just replenishing water but actually gaining weight.

Same-day weigh-ins would force fighters to compete in a weight class where they belong. Also, if they would show up at the weigh-in (no more than 12 hours before the bout) dehydrated, they simply wouldn’t be cleared to fight.

The cost to return to same-day weigh-ins would be negligible. Over a short period of time, it would encourage fighters to compete in a weight class in which they belong. Fights would be fairer, and there would be less wear and tear on the fighter’s body. And, ultimately, healthy, well-hydrated fighters make for more exciting fights.

Boxing needs to admit its mistake and revert to same-day weigh-ins.

Again, nice post.

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LOL did you also know that Gamache turned down a same day weigh in that was offered by the Gatti camp before the fight? This was reported by USA today but oh they must be a corrupt boxing orginization too.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2004-04-14-gamache-lawsuit_x.htm

"The inspector general also noted that Gamache's handlers had rejected an advance offer for a same-day weigh-in"

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Ok, tell me this. what does that have to do with Gatti being almost 20lbs heavier come fight time? Does that make it fair that Gatti was 3 divisions higher? Im waiting for your answer along with those thousands of names.

Yes it does because Gamache fought at those actual divisions against fighter 3 times bigger than Gatti. He even knocked them out for christ sake!!!!

And i'll give you the thousand name thing because I just don't wanna look for even one of them.

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Again, nice post.

Board of Medical Examiners Doctor Disciplinary Records for Nevada
Name Goodman, Margaret E.
Title M.D.
Year of Action 1997
Newsletter Volume 17
Complaint Complaint Filed: 1/24/97 - Charged with 1 count of violation of NRS 630.306(2)(a) engaging in any conduct which is intended to deceive.
Action
"Board Action: 3/18/97 - Entered into a Stipulation for Settlement and Ordered Dr. Goodman to pay the sum of $5,000 as disgorgement of payments which may have been received by her having engaged in conduct intended to deceive in that she, on numerous occasions, knowingly and falsely misrepresented herself as an ABPN Board Certified neurologist, when in fact she was not

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Yes it does because Gamache fought at those actual divisions against fighter 3 times bigger than Gatti. He even knocked them out for christ sake!!!!

It doesn't matter where you have been, only where you are. If you are fighting at 140, fight at 140, not 160.

And i'll give you the thousand name thing because I just don't wanna look for even one of them.

Yeah, whatever.

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Yeah, whatever.

The last refuge for a man that cant form a sophisticated argument.

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The funny thing is that This guy is arguing against basic fairness.

Deigo Corralles even decided not to fight JLC becuase concern for his safety.
because how big JLC would come in for their fights..

Corrales’ said he didnt do it because he still had fresh memory of a bigger, stronger Castillo dominating him in their second fight. Citing concern for his safety, Corrales made the reasonable decision not to fight.

This **** is dangerous....Fighters are not just replenishing water but actually gaining weight.

Boxers have 17 weight classes to fit into. They should be compelled to fight within the one that most nearly reflects their actual trim and fit weight.

The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight. Not to pick on Manny Pacquiao, but if he weighs a trim and fit 145 lbs. on fight night, then how on Earth can we call him the 130 lb. champion with a straight face? Why have so many weight classes if the boxers being weighed are going to make a mockery of the system?

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Board of Medical Examiners Doctor Disciplinary Records for Nevada
Name Goodman, Margaret E.
Title M.D.
Year of Action 1997
Newsletter Volume 17
Complaint Complaint Filed: 1/24/97 - Charged with 1 count of violation of NRS 630.306(2)(a) engaging in any conduct which is intended to deceive.
Action
"Board Action: 3/18/97 - Entered into a Stipulation for Settlement and Ordered Dr. Goodman to pay the sum of $5,000 as disgorgement of payments which may have been received by her having engaged in conduct intended to deceive in that she, on numerous occasions, knowingly and falsely misrepresented herself as an ABPN Board Certified neurologist, when in fact she was not

You hypocrisy knows no limits, does it? You accept the word of an organization proven corrupt, yet disregard someone, who it appears, has shown equal corruptness. Sickening!

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The funny thing is that This guy is arguing against basic fairness.

Deigo Corralles even decided not to fight JLC becuase concern for his safety.
because how big JLC would come in for their fights..

Corrales’ said he didnt do it because he still had fresh memory of a bigger, stronger Castillo dominating him in their second fight. Citing concern for his safety, Corrales made the reasonable decision not to fight.

This **** is dangerous....Fighters are not just replenishing water but actually gaining weight.

Boxers have 17 weight classes to fit into. They should be compelled to fight within the one that most nearly reflects their actual trim and fit weight.

The primary objective of having 17 weight classes in this sport should be to determine the best fighters within specific intervals of weight. Not to pick on Manny Pacquiao, but if he weighs a trim and fit 145 lbs. on fight night, then how on Earth can we call him the 130 lb. champion with a straight face? Why have so many weight classes if the boxers being weighed are going to make a mockery of the system?

Exactly. Go back to 8 weight classes and I would entertain the thought of day before weigh ins. As it is, there are enough concessions fighters should be able to comfortably make weight without putting themselves in danger, unless by their own doing.

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The last refuge for a man that cant form a sophisticated argument.

This coming from the ass clown who just said he "didn't feel like looking for even one of them". Its become obvious that your ******ity doesn't know any limits.