Sameday weigh in's and Margarito. Why you are wrong!!!!

[JAB5239]

No but he did fight as high as junior middle several times before he fought Gatti LOL!!! He's also listed as a lightweight for your information.


Wow not one of your arguments holds any water LOL!!!!

You truly are an idiot of epic preportions. None of that changes the FACT that he was outweighed by 20lbs on fight night and was put at a serious and detrimental disadvantage.

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I don't want to see anybody hurt. But who fault is it if they drain themselves? And who's fault is it if another fighter is allowed to come in 3 divisions higher?

As I said, it's the fighter's fault but it doesn't mean they deserve to suffer the horrific consequences that can occur and if it does occur when same day weigh ins are reintroduced, boxing will take another beating.

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Name the "thousands" of deaths that occured before. And remember you did say thousands. I only say this because if you do I can point out a good number of ring deaths in the last 20 years, even as the number of professional fighters has declined. I'll be waiting.

I did you one better I found a article written by a WBA Ringside doctor who states that even by todays standards with day before weight in's it is still not safe for a boxer to drain his body the day before a fight. So even with the day before weigh in's there really isn't much of an advantage since a day isn't enough to recover all his fluids and it still impairs his skills.


Sounds like an even playing field to me!!!!!

http://www.wbaonline.com/medical/view.asp?idarticule=13

"A proper return to normalcy requires 24 to 48 hours for fluids, 75 hours for muscle glycogen (our fuel source), and greater than 75 hours for muscle tissue (our source of strength). A boxer is cheating his/her body if expecting a return to normalcy in one day. A claimed 24-hour period for recovery “just doesn’t hold water” by valid science. Just a rapid two percent loss of body weight impairs an athlete’s endurance by 20%, and robs strength, endurance, and motivation. Recent preliminary studies also suggest that a rapid loss of 2-1/2% body weight causes a decrease in shock-absorbing brain fluid, potentially increasing the risk of concussion and bleeding in a dehydrated boxer’s injured brain"

[JAB5239]

As I said, it's the fighter's fault but it doesn't mean they deserve to suffer the horrific consequences that can occur and if it does occur when same day weigh ins are reintroduced, boxing will take another beating.

I respect you and your views, as always. But we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. You're not changing my mind and it doesn't appear I am changing yours.

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I respect you and your views, as always. But we're going to have to agree to disagree on this. You're not changing my mind and it doesn't appear I am changing yours.

Indeed, I'll live with that.

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You truly are an idiot of epic preportions. None of that changes the FACT that he was outweighed by 20lbs on fight night and was put at a serious and detrimental disadvantage.

And where does it say that gatti had a 20 pound advantage??? Where? I want you to show me ****** ****!!!! where is the link to where it shows gatti and Gamache's weight after the weigh in. You do know if you lose to much weight your body becomes so dehydrated that your stomech shrinks and you just can;t eat like you used to. If gatti had any weight advantage it was due to Gamache boilinghimself down so hard that he could's gain back any weight after the weigh in.


He fight's at junior middle which is two divisions above junior welter and some how gatti's size is a factor. You are without a doubt the mother of all ******s on this message board if you are buying into that ****.

[JAB5239]

I did you one better I found a article written by a WBA Ringside doctor who states that even by todays standards with day before weight in's it is still not safe for a boxer to drain his body the day before a fight. So even with the day before weigh in's there really isn't much of an advantage since a day isn't enough to recover all his fluids and it still impairs his skills.


Sounds like an even playing field to me!!!!!

http://www.wbaonline.com/medical/view.asp?idarticule=13

"A proper return to normalcy requires 24 to 48 hours for fluids, 75 hours for muscle glycogen (our fuel source), and greater than 75 hours for muscle tissue (our source of strength). A boxer is cheating his/her body if expecting a return to normalcy in one day. A claimed 24-hour period for recovery “just doesn’t hold water” by valid science. Just a rapid two percent loss of body weight impairs an athlete’s endurance by 20%, and robs strength, endurance, and motivation. Recent preliminary studies also suggest that a rapid loss of 2-1/2% body weight causes a decrease in shock-absorbing brain fluid, potentially increasing the risk of concussion and bleeding in a dehydrated boxer’s injured brain"

You're talking about a doctor who gets paid by a corrupt organization that benifits from these day before weigh ins. Just BRILLIANT!! Im still waiting for the "thousands of names". Hell, just give me 500. Thyey should just roll of your tongue since there have been so many. You know, guys like Leavander Johnson, Nigel Benn, Jimmy Garcia. Oh shoot, those fights all occujred within the last 20 years. My bad.

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You're talking about a doctor who gets paid by a corrupt organization that benifits from these day before weigh ins. Just BRILLIANT!! Im still waiting for the "thousands of names". Hell, just give me 500. Thyey should just roll of your tongue since there have been so many. You know, guys like Leavander Johnson, Nigel Benn, Jimmy Garcia. Oh shoot, those fights all occujred within the last 20 years. My bad.

JAB, the problem is the medical evidence isn't conclusive. That's been admitted many times.

My thing about same day weigh ins would definitely include monitoring fighters weights weeks up to the fight...that would seem the best way to do it.

It can be just as dangerous...depending on the way people take off weight.

[JAB5239]

And where does it say that gatti had a 20 pound advantage??? Where? I want you to show me ****** ****!!!! where is the link to where it shows gatti and Gamache's weight after the weigh in. You do know if you lose to much weight your body becomes so dehydrated that your stomech shrinks and you just can;t eat like you used to. If gatti had any weight advantage it was due to Gamache boilinghimself down so hard that he could's gain back any weight after the weigh in.


He fight's at junior middle which is two divisions above junior welter and some how gatti's size is a factor. You are without a doubt the mother of all ******s on this message board if you are buying into that ****.

Unlike you I watched the fight live. I remember the commentaters talking about the weight difference come fight time as do many other posters here. It was the whole reason Gamache sued the NYSAC to begin with. You could see the size differential. Lol, but you're not buying that. That is why you are considered aq moron in your short time on this board.

The weight disparity on the day of the fight was so great that it resulted in a popular outcry against Gatti.

This violent knockout landed Gamache in the hospital for a week and ended his career.

[JAB5239]

JAB, the problem is the medical evidence isn't conclusive. That's been admitted many times.

My thing about same day weigh ins would definitely include monitoring fighters weights weeks up to the fight...that would seem the best way to do it.

It can be just as dangerous...depending on the way people take off weight.

I would love to see the weight monitored before and after the weigh in leading up to the fight. I wouldn't have a problem with week before weigh ins as long as the playing field was even. As it is, many of the times one fighter has a pronounced advantage over the other come fight time.