Duran is not a top ten ATG

[Brandish]

Sam Langford, Harry Greb, Willie Pep, Benny Leonard? There are at least 50 fighters who deserve to be rated above PBF. You are clueless.

name these 50 fighters please, and please list what they accomplsihed in their careers

oh and make sure it measures up to 5 titles in 5 weight classes by the age of 30 snd remained undefeated. it took duran how long to win 4

[The Hammer]

name these 50 fighters please, and please list what they accomplsihed in their careers

oh and make sure it measures up to 5 titles in 5 weight classes by the age of 30 snd remained undefeated. it took duran how long to win 4

It's fans like Brandish that cause some people to dislike Floyd.

Duran accomplished a lot more than Floyd in his career. For example, he defeated an ATG in his prime.

[Brandish]

alright then.
Durans win over Barkley>Mayweathers win over De La Hoya

in your dreams barkely better then oscar that was funny..not

Durans win over Palomino>anyone Mayweather beat at 147

judah and baldomir were champions when floyd beat them palomino was not a champion and was a faded fighter.

Durans win over Moore>Mayweathers win over Corrales

davey moore 11-0 does not compare to diego corrales 33-0 30 ko's

Durans win over Leonard>Mayweathers wins over Castillo

that is true but floyd beat castillo twice and did not quit in the rematch or the first fight he gutted out the victory like a true champ

Durans win over Buchanan>Mayweathers win over Gerano Hernandez

you keep telling yourself that. ken buchanan couldn't carry genaro's jockstrap

[Brandish]

It's fans like Brandish that cause some people to dislike Floyd.

Duran accomplished a lot more than Floyd in his career. For example, he defeated an ATG in his prime.

here comes the bigot why don't you go back to your klan rally. duran beat an atg in his career so did hector camacho and terry norris.

the only difference is that duran quit against the same atg fighter that just goes to show how overrated he is. he quit aganst leonard, got koed by hearns, and got schooled by hagler and benitez

[Kid McCoy]

name these 50 fighters please, and please list what they accomplsihed in their careers

oh and make sure it measures up to 5 titles in 5 weight classes by the age of 30 snd remained undefeated. it took duran how long to win 4

I could do just that, but you know what, it would only be lost on someone who thinks Ken Buchanan was in any way similar to Ricky Hatton, or that Duran was a punching bag for any boxer with decent skills.

Suffice to say, they all accomplished far more than Floyd's career of nothing by WBC titles in a four belt era, failure to clean out and unify a single division, and failure to meet many of his most talented and dangerous peers.

[The Hammer]

here comes the bigot why don't you go back to your klan rally. duran beat an atg in his career so did hector camacho and terry norris.

the only difference is that duran quit against the same atg fighter that just goes to show how overrated he is. he quit aganst leonard, got koed by hearns, and got schooled by hagler and benitez

That was after his prime, when he moved up into heavier weight divisions where he was at a serious reach and height disadvantage.

You are the bigot, not me.

Roberto Duran is the greatest lightweight of all time.

[Steak]

in your dreams barkely better then oscar that was funny..not

umm...Barkley would have beaten any version of De La Hoya. theres no doubt about that at all.

judah and baldomir were champions when floyd beat them palomino was not a champion and was a faded fighter.

uh huh. so Judah and Baldomir could have taken Benitez to a split decision? interesting.

davey moore 11-0 does not compare to diego corrales 33-0 30 ko's

Davey Moore was 4 weight classes higher than Corrales, and had wins over a lineal champ at the time...

that is true but floyd beat castillo twice and did not quit in the rematch or the first fight he gutted out the victory like a true champ

Many people believe Floyd lost the first part as it is. and one win over Sugar Ray Leonard is pretty much better than a thousand wins over Castillo.

you keep telling yourself that. ken buchanan couldn't carry genaro's jockstrap

haha...apart from the fact that Genaro was at the end of his career, Buchanan was a lineal champ and is in the HOF. I dont think the same could be said of Genaro. good fighter tho.

[Scott9945]

so you admit duran did not jump directly from 135 to 147 to face leonard. as long as that little myth got cleared up he should get credit for the victoroy and get slagged for the loss. you don't just measure a fighter by his wins his losses also have to be taken into the equation.






roy jones, pernell whitaker, sugar ray leoanrd, tommy hearns, and james toney have all defeated more champions then duran what is your point.

are you arguing that duran is a top ten atg based on those medicore champions he beat



ok 100 is a bit much but lets say 40




yeah, I know who they are just like I know who kosta tszyu and jose luis castillo are




was a palomino a champion when duran fought him, did he become a champ after duran fought him






you have a legacy you have to take the fighters entire career into perspective, not pick and choose the aspects you want to hype up. too many times people don't want to take duran's losses into account when measuring him all time against his generation.





sugar ray robinson
henry armstrong
Muhammad ali
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones Jr
Marvin Hagler
Floyd Mayweather jr
Bernard Hopkins
Pernell Whitaker
Tommy hearns

duran's accomplsihments career wise does not matchup with these guys

I'm sure I'm the only one here who was shocked that your top 10 would be all Black fighters.

[gibo]

He's probably the greatest Lightweight ever, he beat a prime Leonard, and won the Middleweight title something like 17 years after winning the Lightweight belt. And he came back a couple times for some good wins when most people counted him out. But the main reason Duran gets ranked so high is because he was/is everybody's hero.

He was great when he won, but when he lost it was either because he didn't train properly or some other bull**** excuse. Difficult for anyone who didn't live through his career to rank him so high (most have him top 5 AT). His lightweight career and Montreal are enough to secure him as an ATG but what he did after is not enough to make him top 10 material IMO.

He QUIT in the Leonard rematch, refused to fight when he could've and people blame Leonard for being a sneaky bastard taking the rematch so soon knowing Duran liked to party and wouldn't be in shape. Ridiculous. He gets blasted out by Hearns and all we hear is how Hearns had just too much of a size advantage for him to overcome. Loses to Hagler but gave a good account of himself so it's alright for HIM to have lost yet another big fight. I mean De La Hoya is not a top ATG because he lost most of his biggest fights, didn't seem to effect Duran's legacy. He was also outclassed by Benitez, and by Leonard in their rubber match after beating Barkley. He dropped decision to Kirkland Laing and Robbie Sims before beating Barkley. No other fighter would've got away scot free with those failures. But he seemed to manage it. I dunno, I didn't live through his career as I said, but just hard to comprehend how he gets ranked so highly.

Differance is... DURAN FOUGHT AND CHALLENGED BIGGER AND HEAVYER FIGHTERS AS HE GOT OLDER, AND WON.. hoya FOUGHT SMALLER LIGHTER AND LOST... NO COMPARISON AT ALL.....

[pistol whip]

He is considered by every Major Boxing Magazine and critic as the best Lightweight ever to lace up Boxing gloves The End. we can all stop responding to this thread now.