Freddie Roach Talks About DLH-Pacquiao

[Benny Leonard]

if manny fights at 147 in the ring and floyd fights at 149 in the ring......what's the problem with fighting at 140?

floyd has an advantage at 147 whereas manny has little to no advantage at 140.

everyone who weighs in at 140 weighs around 147-154 in the ring anyway come fight time.

manny doesn't need floyd for his legacy.

it's arguable floyd does. 'cause we know he's not fighting williams , cotto or margarito at 147.

in fact it hurts floyd's legacy to fight manny at 147.

he can always say he's not a 147 fighter so no point in fighting those 147 guys.

if he doesn't fight marg , cotto , williams at 147 for titles? what does it say if he wants to fight a natural featherweight at 147 instead of 140?

LOL....WHAT?

Do you see what you are saying?

Why have a fight at 147 if both fighters will show up at 149?

Here's a thought: What's closer for the fighters to make weight: 140 or 149?

What's the point of making a fight at 140 if both fighters are going to be Welterweights by fight time?

No point in dehydrating the fighters 9 pounds. 2 ponds is much safer and everybody would agree.

Manny's not fighting Williams, Cotto, and Margarito either...Manny has been knocked out twice and has losses on his record. Manny is the one that lost to a past prime Morales; not Floyd. Nobody on Manny's resume can beat Floyd.

So, what's your point again for making a fight at 140? No point. My point is the safer road for the fighters. Both fighters will be able to show up healthy. Now who cares about both fighters health; me or you?

And how does Floyd have an advantage at 147 if Manny is the same weight as Floyd come fight time?

Oh wait; I know. Manny, being younger and active, is used to making weight by dehydrating himself then rehydrating himself while Floyd, who is in his 30's, will be near two years inactive, and hasn't fought at 140 for 3, going on 4 years by fight time, will not be used to making weight...so, advantage Manny.

Now, who wants an unfair advantage and wants to steal a fight?

This pisses me off as a boxing fan that pays good money to watch fighters fight. I expect my fighters to be healthy.

[Left Hook Tua]

No problem guys.



Yeah, it's like Mayweather Sr. said, Garcia was doing all kinds of stuff to him that didn't help him in the ring at all.





As Roach said in the interview, he'll do everything he can to gain and advantage for his fighter and if that's making the fight at 140, so be it, although I agree, I think Pacquiao can fight Mayweather at 147 and not lose too much effectiveness.

what's the point of weighing in at 147 and putting on 1 pound?

no point.

just because a fighter weighs 147 in the ring doesn't mean he should be fighting at 147.

castillo use to come in at like 155 when he was fighting at lightweight. does that mean he should have fought at middleweight.

fact is , benny wants a fight where floyd has an advantage and pac has none.

roach said fighting at 147 is a one shot deal. it's one thing for pac to go to 147 to fight a past prime fighter. it's another thing for him to fight one in his prime.

do you want to see pac fight cotto? or margarito? or clottey?

no he's NOT a welterweight!

[Silencers]

what's the point of weighing in at 147 and putting on 1 pound?

no point.

just because a fighter weighs 147 in the ring doesn't mean he should be fighting at 147.

castillo use to come in at like 155 when he was fighting at lightweight. does that mean he should have fought at middleweight.

fact is , benny wants a fight where floyd has an advantage and pac has none.

roach said fighting at 147 is a one shot deal. it's one thing for pac to go to 147 to fight a past prime fighter. it's another thing for him to fight one in his prime.

do you want to see pac fight cotto? or margarito? or clottey?

no he's NOT a welterweight!

Well Mayweather is a relatively small welterweight, even though he is a welterweight now, he's still a small one, a fight at 147 would be more significant anyways, Mayweather was the man at the division, if Pacquiao can beat him there, it would be bigger than a win at 140 IMO, not to say a win at 140 wouldn't be big.

[Left Hook Tua]

LOL....WHAT?

Do you see what you are saying?

Why have a fight at 147 if both fighters will show up at 149?

Here's a thought: What's closer for the fighters to make weight: 140 or 149?

What's the point of making a fight at 140 if both fighters are going to be Welterweights by fight time?

No point in dehydrating the fighters 9 pounds. 2 ponds is much safer and everybody would agree.

Manny's not fighting Williams, Cotto, and Margarito either...Manny has been knocked out twice and has losses on his record. Manny is the one that lost to a past prime Morales; not Floyd. Nobody on Manny's resume can beat Floyd.

So, what's your point again for making a fight at 140? No point. My point is the safer road for the fighters. Both fighters will be able to show up healthy. Now who cares about both fighters health; me or you?

And how does Floyd have an advantage at 147 if Manny is the same weight as Floyd come fight time?

Oh wait; I know. Manny, being younger and active, is used to making weight by dehydrating himself then rehydrating himself while Floyd, who is in his 30's, will be near two years inactive, and hasn't fought at 140 for 3, going on 4 years by fight time, will not be used to making weight...so, advantage Manny.

Now, who wants an unfair advantage and wants to steal a fight?

This pisses me off as a boxing fan that pays good money to watch fighters fight. I expect my fighters to be healthy.

there's NO point in fighting a 147 fight.

period.

pacquiao is not a 147 fighter!

make a list of 147 fighters right now that weigh 148 or 149 in the ring.

aside from floyd or manny there isn't any.

i don't want manny getting comfortable at 147.

he belongs at 135. at most 140.

everyone here said it was a joke for manny to fight at 147 and now you want him to fight a 2nd time at 147?

floyd can make 140. he should try to make it.

what's the disadvantage for manny to fight at 147?

FOR ONE......HE'S NOT A 147 FIGHTER!!!!!

[Benny Leonard]

what's the point of weighing in at 147 and putting on 1 pound?

no point.

just because a fighter weighs 147 in the ring doesn't mean he should be fighting at 147.

castillo use to come in at like 155 when he was fighting at lightweight. does that mean he should have fought at middleweight.

fact is , benny wants a fight where floyd has an advantage and pac has none.

roach said fighting at 147 is a one shot deal. it's one thing for pac to go to 147 to fight a past prime fighter. it's another thing for him to fight one in his prime.

do you want to see pac fight cotto? or margarito? or clottey?

no he's NOT a welterweight!

You make no sense at all.

Where was Floyd fighting? 147. How much did Floyd weigh come fight time? 147-149. When he fought Oscar at 154, how much did he weigh? Under 154.

Everybody in the division was bigger than Floyd.

So, why should this fight be at 147? Because it's safer for both fighters to make weight. Both fighters are the same size at 149 by fight time.

Read what you are saying and THINK.

They aren't fighting Margarito or Williams. This is a fight between two 149 pound fighters that should make-weight at 147 because it won't take much out of them to "make-weight."

[Left Hook Tua]

Well Mayweather is a relatively small welterweight, even though he is a welterweight now, he's still a small one, a fight at 147 would be more significant anyways, Mayweather was the man at the division, if Pacquiao can beat him there, it would be bigger than a win at 140 IMO, not to say a win at 140 wouldn't be big.

the only way i'd want manny to fight him at 147 is if he has a belt.

tell him to go get a belt at 147 and i'll go along with it.

ricky has a belt at 140. manny is gonna get that belt.

if the floyd-pac fight gets made and manny has a 140 belt and floyd doesn't have one at 147......then for me personally i want it 140.

[Benny Leonard]

there's NO point in fighting a 147 fight.

period.

pacquiao is not a 147 fighter!

make a list of 147 fighters right now that weigh 148 or 149 in the ring.

aside from floyd or manny there isn't any.

i don't want manny getting comfortable at 147.

he belongs at 135. at most 140.

everyone here said it was a joke for manny to fight at 147 and now you want him to fight a 2nd time at 147?

floyd can make 140. he should try to make it.

what's the disadvantage for manny to fight at 147?

FOR ONE......HE'S NOT A 147 FIGHTER!!!!!

Please, answer this: how old are and what is your educational background?

[Silencers]

the only way i'd want manny to fight him at 147 is if he has a belt.

tell him to go get a belt at 147 and i'll go along with it.

ricky has a belt at 140. manny is gonna get that belt.

if the floyd-pac fight gets made and manny has a 140 belt and floyd doesn't have one at 147......then for me personally i want it 140.

If Mayweather comes back, a lot of people will consider him the man in the division, he hasn't gotten beaten there yet so he holds the linear title, it's another chance for Pacquiao to make history, first man to be the man in 5 weight classes.

[Left Hook Tua]

You make no sense at all.

Where was Floyd fighting? 147. How much did Floyd weigh come fight time? 147-149. When he fought Oscar at 154, how much did he weigh? Under 154.

Everybody in the division was bigger than Floyd.

So, why should this fight be at 147? Because it's safer for both fighters to make weight. Both fighters are the same size at 149 by fight time.

Read what you are saying and THINK.

They aren't fighting Margarito or Williams. This is a fight between two 149 pound fighters that should make-weight at 147 because it won't take much out of them to "make-weight."

i'm making perfect sense.

you have a guy who has only 1 fight at 147 and only 2 total above 130 and you want him to go back to 147 again against a guy who can make 140?

what's the point of going to 147?

both guys can make 140.

go tell floyd to get a belt at 147 and then you have a reason for the fight to be at 147.

this is fucking ridiculous!

manny has fought 80% of his fights at 122 or lower.

he's had 2 fights above 130 , and you want him to go up to 147 again against a guy who can make 140.

pathetic.

if floyd won't fight at 140 when he CAN and forces a natural featherweight to fight him at 147...... he's NO BETTER THAN OSCAR.

[Benny Leonard]

the only way i'd want manny to fight him at 147 is if he has a belt.

tell him to go get a belt at 147 and i'll go along with it.

ricky has a belt at 140. manny is gonna get that belt.

if the floyd-pac fight gets made and manny has a 140 belt and floyd doesn't have one at 147......then for me personally i want it 140.

Floyd was the lineal Champion when he retired; as well as the P4P Champ.
He held the Ring Magazine title at that weight as well.

All of the above are just as valid as the WBC, WBA, and IFB...why?

Because at the end of the day, they're all bull****. They are just belts.

You fight the Name just like Pac just fought Oscar who didn't have a title and was 3-3 in his last 6 fights going into the Pac fight.

Pac has no belts at 140.

Floyd is better than any fighter at 140. He even beat the lineal Champ in Ricky Hatton.