Freddie Roach Talks About DLH-Pacquiao

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  • Pullcounter
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    #81
    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
    no, my logic is right on. Fighters should be fighting at their "Fight Time" weight...that's there weight-class.

    Fighters shouldn't have to dehydrate themselves to make a weight that they will not be fighting at.

    It is a billed a "140" pound fight. But when I look at the fighter's weight come fight time...I'm looking for those 140 pound fighters.


    If both weigh 149, like you say, you can make the fight at 147 between those two so they don't have to dehydrate to make 140.

    It's more about those two than any other fighter in the 147 pound division.
    ideally 140 lbers should weight 140 lbs, but you know that's not how it works.

    therefore your logic fails and is impractical

    the fight will be at 140 or it wont be

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    • Benny Leonard
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      #82
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      cuz they were setting up bigger fights.... you know, like when floyd fought judah instead of cotto or money marg.
      Floyd told Judah he would fight him and then Judah lost to Baldomir, losing his titles. Floyd went on with the fight anyway, which I didn't agree with, but....what can you do.


      Again: I ripped on Floyd's legacy at 147. And, funny how Floyd, who weighs in at 149 by fight time, when Cotto and Margarito are well over that, don't get ripped for their fight-time weight. And Manny, the man was 147 pounds fighting at 135.

      Floyd's the only one fighting in his true weight-class.

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      • Benny Leonard
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        #83
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        ideally 140 lbers should weight 140 lbs, but you know that's not how it works.

        therefore your logic fails and is impractical

        the fight will be at 140 or it wont be
        No, you have it wrong because this is a fight between Floyd and Manny. They are not fighting other welters so why do they have to drain themselves to make 140? They can easily make this fight at 147 so that both fighters don't have to lose more than 2 pounds. Would you rather have a fighter drain themelves of 9 pounds or 2? Why don't you ask a Doctor what is safer.

        Were not dealing with anybody else that CHEATS at making weight. I'm talking about two real Welterweights that shouldn't see the point of draining themselves to make weight.

        Again: Why did MANNY fight OSCAR at 147


        If he can fight Oscar at 147, he can fight Floyd.

        He's not fighting Margarito; he is fighting Floyd.

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #84
          Originally posted by Benny Leonard
          Mitchell was set on Tszyu...this is well known. When Mitchell moved up to 147, Floyd fought him...and I ripped on Floyd for fighting Tszyu left-overs.

          We can play this game all day:

          Here is one: Who am I? I was KTFO twice and lost to a past prime fighter?
          more hints please.

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          • BlackHat
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            #85
            Why did Manny fight Oscar @ 147 - I wish Oscar could make 140.

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