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  • Motofan
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    #91
    Originally posted by Makavelli
    barrera was on his way down at #3 p4p? then he went on to win another world title after his beating? LOL
    Go back and watch his old fights and then tell me with a straight face that he was at his best at that point. Go ahead, I'll wait. You have never struck me as a poster who doesnt know ****. Im suprised to hear you think MAB was prime when he fought Pac.

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    • Espada
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      #92
      Originally posted by Motofan
      Go back and watch his old fights and then tell me with a straight face that he was at his best at that point. Go ahead, I'll wait. You have never struck me as a poster who doesnt know ****. Im suprised to hear you think MAB was prime when he fought Pac.
      MAB is not prime in 2003? You're ******.. The Barrera that did get a beating dominated 130 beat Morales and everyone at 130.. At shot Barrera gave Marquez a controversial decision..

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      • FLY TY
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        #93
        Originally posted by gerardofpr
        Zero legitimate titles? How about the P4P title, isnt that good enough? Man I tell you, haters will always be haters no matter what happens.
        p4p is not an actual "title" ******.....

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        • -MAKAVELLI-
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          #94
          Originally posted by Motofan
          Go back and watch his old fights and then tell me with a straight face that he was at his best at that point. Go ahead, I'll wait. You have never struck me as a poster who doesnt know ****. Im suprised to hear you think MAB was prime when he fought Pac.

          i dont need to go back and watch tapes...i'm fully aware of what a juggernaut Barrera was at the time of the 1st manny fight...he just finished whooping Salud, who was the original Hawaiian Punch (and a personal favorite of mine)...ripped thru Hamed, beat Morales, whooped Kevin Kelley and Johnny Tapia....that's not prime to you? really?


          and like i said, after Barrera's beatdown, he strings like what, 7 straight wins and another world title



          but i guess, that's not 'prime' enough for some

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          • Motofan
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            #95
            Originally posted by Makavelli
            i dont need to go back and watch tapes...i'm fully aware of what a juggernaut Barrera was at the time of the 1st manny fight...he just finished whooping Salud, who was the original Hawaiian Punch (and a personal favorite of mine)...ripped thru Hamed, beat Morales, whooped Kevin Kelley and Johnny Tapia....that's not prime to you? really?


            and like i said, after Barrera's beatdown, he strings like what, 7 straight wins and another world title



            but i guess, that's not 'prime' enough for some
            He strung those 7 or so wins together because he was still a good fighter. I never said he was totally shot when he fought Pac, just a ways past his best. Hopkins can dominate Pavlik at 43 but he isnt at his best. Had a prime Hopkins met Calzaghe he likely would have won. But even a past him prime Hopkins can string together good wins. Same thing.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Motofan
              He strung those 7 or so wins together because he was still a good fighter. I never said he was totally shot when he fought Pac, just a ways past his best. Hopkins can dominate Pavlik at 43 but he isnt at his best. Had a prime Hopkins met Calzaghe he likely would have won. But even a past him prime Hopkins can string together good wins. Same thing.




              so he was past his prime prior to the 1st PAC fight?

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              • cheering
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                #97
                IF you are a BOB ARUM FIGHTER,

                then BEAT Antonio Margarito, or STFU !!!!!

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                • jbmaca
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                  #98
                  LOL this fitzsimmons clown is a sad, bitter, angry little man. probably because of his "low-end tax bracket or trailer park upbringing."

                  you were wrong fitzsimmons. it happens. the least you can do is be a man about it.

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                    #99
                    Good article. I like Manny, but I want to see him against a good, young fighter in his prime. Not a washed up Barrera, Morales, and DLH. And there is no way he will be fighting Marquez again.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      By Lyle Fitzsimmons - OK… first things first.

                      Yes, I saw Saturday night’s fight. Yes, I’m crystal clear on the result.

                      Yes, Manny Pacquiao whipped Oscar De La Hoya like he’d never been whipped.

                      In a way I didn’t think he could be whipped.

                      Simply put, I was wrong. And the myriad people who’ve dropped e-mails in the interim since the final bell… kudos and congratulations to you all. You were right.

                      Of course, I didn’t see any of your predictions beforehand, but I’ll take for granted that each and every one of you “knew” it was going to go down exactly as it did – in spite of heavy betting odds and general pre-fight consensus to the contrary.

                      That’s just the kind of guy I am.
                      And there… now that we’ve firmly established those points, here’s another:Smilies



                      I’m still not convinced.

                      So while cable TV analysts and clever e-mailers have been breathlessly invoking the multi-division ghosts of Armstrong and Robinson, I’m a little less willing to cede Mr. Pacquiao his place alongside those immortals quite yet.

                      To me anyway, there’s a little more work to be done.

                      Though the one-sided nature of his victory was beyond any argument, a few hard facts nonetheless remain about exactly what the Filipino sensation accomplished in Las Vegas.
                      He beat a 35-year-old former welterweight… not a reigning champion.

                      He beat a man who’d been .500 in his last six fights… not a streaking contender.

                      He still holds zero legitimate titles in any weight class… not three, as Armstrong did.

                      And while none of this diminishes the virtuosity he displayed Saturday – and none of it changes the fact that I thought Oscar would win decisively – it ought to inject at least a smidgen of reality into the “Pacquiao is God” chatter that’s been growing louder by the second. [details]
                      there are 2 only types of guys who did not catch the pacman fever last week. Type one are those who are immune to reality (those who cannot differentiate realilty from fantasy, are sore losers, or are just plain ignorant). Type two are those who are so insensitive (brainwise or spinal column wise) they could not get their ****s up anymore, or could do but could not cum anymore. Tell me mr "fatsemens". Which type do you belong to? Just asking...

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