Still Immune To The "Pac-Man" Fever

[kumite]

For once i agree the last fight was just pathetic for odlh. Like beating up an old fart. It wasn't really that great. But hey that's just me.

[kumite]

They were merely former champions

Delahoya, morales, barrera, marquez... For once i agree they are just nobody. They were merely former champions. I want to see a real tile fight, not another mexican ***** slapping.

by lyle fitzsimmons - ok… first things first.

Yes, i saw saturday night’s fight. Yes, i’m crystal clear on the result.

Yes, manny pacquiao whipped oscar de la hoya like he’d never been whipped.

In a way i didn’t think he could be whipped.

Simply put, i was wrong. And the myriad people who’ve dropped e-mails in the interim since the final bell… kudos and congratulations to you all. You were right.

Of course, i didn’t see any of your predictions beforehand, but i’ll take for granted that each and every one of you “knew” it was going to go down exactly as it did – in spite of heavy betting odds and general pre-fight consensus to the contrary.

That’s just the kind of guy i am.
And there… now that we’ve firmly established those points, here’s another:

I’m still not convinced.

So while cable tv analysts and clever e-mailers have been breathlessly invoking the multi-division ghosts of armstrong and robinson, i’m a little less willing to cede mr. Pacquiao his place alongside those immortals quite yet.

To me anyway, there’s a little more work to be done.

Though the one-sided nature of his victory was beyond any argument, a few hard facts nonetheless remain about exactly what the filipino sensation accomplished in las vegas.
He beat a 35-year-old former welterweight… not a reigning champion.

He beat a man who’d been .500 in his last six fights… not a streaking contender.

He still holds zero legitimate titles in any weight class… not three, as armstrong did.

And while none of this diminishes the virtuosity he displayed saturday – and none of it changes the fact that i thought oscar would win decisively – it ought to inject at least a smidgen of reality into the “pacquiao is god” chatter that’s been growing louder by the second. [details]

[Deep Water]

why is this article even mentioning mayweather? as of now, hes retired, so he cant be p4p no1. end of.

[SceneSpectator!]

What a joke if true. Pac already fought at welterweight and now Roach see a chance that he may get Floyd weight drained lol, i think even a weight drained Floyd would throw more punchs then Delahoya did, but then again, as maya sun said, "pac was born with a horse shoe up his ass" and Mayweather may come in weak as **** too. Says a lot of the charector of Roach, especially him being a fighter but he is protecting his money machine. lol.

Easy ferocity... roach told that during pacman's pre-fight to ODLH. but now considering the results of the fight, roach would most probably back-track on his comment.. Big $$$$$ would makes match-up alive and for real!

[gopi11]

That was at a much lighter weight. The OP said Pacquiao fought brilliantly against De La Hoya, he just said the comparisons people are making with people like Henry Armstrong are wrong. Armstrong was undisputed champion at three weights simultaneously, whereas Pacquiao gave up his super-featherweight title and hasn't won any undisputed weight championships since.

There was only one belt back then, you fight and defeat one champion, you're the undisputed champion, I guess Pacman has to defeat the champions of the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO and ABCDEFG organization to be recognized as the undisputed champion, so much to do in so little time. At this day and age, you have to give up one or the other if you won two belts at 2 different weight classes. Holding multiple belts at different weight classes will never happen today, so you're asking for the impossible...

[gopi11]

it wasn't all about the comparisons dude. the man doesn't believed in what pacquiao had already acomplished. so when this will end and he starts believing?****ed about the alphabet belts, lineal,undisputed or whatever you call that s**t. do you think that there will be another boxer for the next millennium or even beyond who can be compared with what pacquiao had done?somebody who starts his career at 106lbs and went up to 147 lbs. to fight a former WW champion.until then, i still believe that pacquiao is one amongst the greatest.

Lyle Fitzsimmons must've lost his house last Saturday to sound like this, he's living in the streets right now and picking up cans and he will be blaming Pacman forever for this.

Even if Pacquiao fights and defeats King Kong and Godzilla at the same, he will probably write in his next article that King Kong is waaay past his prime and Godzilla took a dive. I won't even try to convince this guy, he's not deserving...

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Dear Lyle,




People respond to greatness in two ways: they accept and appreciate it or they refuse to believe it



for you to sit there and actually write an article trying to convince people that you havent caugh the 'fever', it's doing the opposite



welcome to the bandwagon (for when you realize it)

[SceneSpectator!]

The boxing experts just about everyone of them werent calling DLH a shot fighter, plus even if Roach and Valero were saying it, YOU WERENT BUYING INTO IT.

And to say Marquez owns Pacquiao, come on. Marquez needs Pacquiao. Who has Marquez beat that was so great, Barrerra who Pac manhadled in the their first fight. Marquez put up a good fight with fight but NEVER BEAT HIM, only in your eyes.

MARQUEZ NEEDS PACQUIAO. ITS LIKE A SPLINTER ON HIS CAREER. OUCH.

Majority doesn't believes that ODLH was a shot before, but after the fight suddenly ODLH become a shot and seems they dont want to give that credit to pacman! Morales when he won over pacman was not a shot, after his two consecutive loses he suddenly became a shot, and barrera was a shot too when he lost 2x! So what's the point of taking JMM for a third fight when he too a shot when losing to pacman?? you pac-haters, i know you have millions and one excuses when you are disappointed on your expectations, this normal though, but what abnormal is, when sometimes you do not know how to swallow your pride despite slapping your face with blattant truth! you're all sicked!

[gopi11]

Yo! Lyle!
Nobody can argue with success...
That's why you're a beat writer, eating donuts while you pound your keyboard...
And Pacman or any other boxer you dislike are millionaires...
I can pay you a good salary, just always stand beside me and everytime I get mad...
I'll slap your face in 3 different directions and pay you ten bucks for each slap...
Dont worry I'm always on a bad mood... hahahaha!

You made my day Znoop!

[Pullcounter]

roach already said that floyd would have to make a catchweight... honestly floyd can make 140 easily