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    By Lyle Fitzsimmons - OK… first things first.

    Yes, I saw Saturday night’s fight. Yes, I’m crystal clear on the result.

    Yes, Manny Pacquiao whipped Oscar De La Hoya like he’d never been whipped.

    In a way I didn’t think he could be whipped.

    Simply put, I was wrong. And the myriad people who’ve dropped e-mails in the interim since the final bell… kudos and congratulations to you all. You were right.

    Of course, I didn’t see any of your predictions beforehand, but I’ll take for granted that each and every one of you “knew” it was going to go down exactly as it did – in spite of heavy betting odds and general pre-fight consensus to the contrary.

    That’s just the kind of guy I am.
    And there… now that we’ve firmly established those points, here’s another:

    I’m still not convinced.

    So while cable TV analysts and clever e-mailers have been breathlessly invoking the multi-division ghosts of Armstrong and Robinson, I’m a little less willing to cede Mr. Pacquiao his place alongside those immortals quite yet.

    To me anyway, there’s a little more work to be done.

    Though the one-sided nature of his victory was beyond any argument, a few hard facts nonetheless remain about exactly what the Filipino sensation accomplished in Las Vegas.
    He beat a 35-year-old former welterweight… not a reigning champion.

    He beat a man who’d been .500 in his last six fights… not a streaking contender.

    He still holds zero legitimate titles in any weight class… not three, as Armstrong did.

    And while none of this diminishes the virtuosity he displayed Saturday – and none of it changes the fact that I thought Oscar would win decisively – it ought to inject at least a smidgen of reality into the “Pacquiao is God” chatter that’s been growing louder by the second. [details]

  • #2
    So were you a believer when Mayweather had loose ends at 147 but was ranked number 1 pound for pound?

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    • #3
      thank god for creating humans to be not satisfied forever.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
        By Lyle Fitzsimmons - OK… first things first.

        Yes, I saw Saturday night’s fight. Yes, I’m crystal clear on the result.

        Yes, Manny Pacquiao whipped Oscar De La Hoya like he’d never been whipped.

        In a way I didn’t think he could be whipped.

        Simply put, I was wrong. And the myriad people who’ve dropped e-mails in the interim since the final bell… kudos and congratulations to you all. You were right.

        Of course, I didn’t see any of your predictions beforehand, but I’ll take for granted that each and every one of you “knew” it was going to go down exactly as it did – in spite of heavy betting odds and general pre-fight consensus to the contrary.

        That’s just the kind of guy I am.
        And there… now that we’ve firmly established those points, here’s another:

        I’m still not convinced.

        So while cable TV analysts and clever e-mailers have been breathlessly invoking the multi-division ghosts of Armstrong and Robinson, I’m a little less willing to cede Mr. Pacquiao his place alongside those immortals quite yet.

        To me anyway, there’s a little more work to be done.

        Though the one-sided nature of his victory was beyond any argument, a few hard facts nonetheless remain about exactly what the Filipino sensation accomplished in Las Vegas.
        He beat a 35-year-old former welterweight… not a reigning champion.

        He beat a man who’d been .500 in his last six fights… not a streaking contender.

        He still holds zero legitimate titles in any weight class… not three, as Armstrong did.

        And while none of this diminishes the virtuosity he displayed Saturday – and none of it changes the fact that I thought Oscar would win decisively – it ought to inject at least a smidgen of reality into the “Pacquiao is God” chatter that’s been growing louder by the second. [details]
        lol this guy has a unique view of reality... like many poster here he cannot man up and eat his crow.

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        • #5
          No, Pac ain't beatin any of the top WW's, that part of the hype is just crazy. But he deserves the shine he's gettin. Dude's gotta be FOTY. JMM rematch was damn good and he edged it. Diaz ain't nothin special, but the display he put on in rippin him apart was ill. And of course DLH was supposed to behead him and he destroyed his ass. And the fight wit Hatton is winnable for him next year. Pac has definitely earned his place in history already, even tho he ain't the GOAT. And how the hell does Pac have 'loose ends' to tie at WW and PBF don't?

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          • #6
            *** knows how you can still be immune.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
              By Lyle Fitzsimmons - OK… first things first.

              Yes, I saw Saturday night’s fight. Yes, I’m crystal clear on the result.

              Yes, Manny Pacquiao whipped Oscar De La Hoya like he’d never been whipped.

              In a way I didn’t think he could be whipped.

              Simply put, I was wrong. And the myriad people who’ve dropped e-mails in the interim since the final bell… kudos and congratulations to you all. You were right.

              Of course, I didn’t see any of your predictions beforehand, but I’ll take for granted that each and every one of you “knew” it was going to go down exactly as it did – in spite of heavy betting odds and general pre-fight consensus to the contrary.

              That’s just the kind of guy I am.
              And there… now that we’ve firmly established those points, here’s another:

              I’m still not convinced.

              So while cable TV analysts and clever e-mailers have been breathlessly invoking the multi-division ghosts of Armstrong and Robinson, I’m a little less willing to cede Mr. Pacquiao his place alongside those immortals quite yet.

              To me anyway, there’s a little more work to be done.

              Though the one-sided nature of his victory was beyond any argument, a few hard facts nonetheless remain about exactly what the Filipino sensation accomplished in Las Vegas.
              He beat a 35-year-old former welterweight… not a reigning champion.

              He beat a man who’d been .500 in his last six fights… not a streaking contender.

              He still holds zero legitimate titles in any weight class… not three, as Armstrong did.

              And while none of this diminishes the virtuosity he displayed Saturday – and none of it changes the fact that I thought Oscar would win decisively – it ought to inject at least a smidgen of reality into the “Pacquiao is God” chatter that’s been growing louder by the second. [details]
              Man that's harsh. Admit it Mr. Author, you just can't accept the fact you were wrong in the fight. Lay down your pride

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              • #8
                I guess destroying all-time greats like Morales and Barrera (when again Pacquiao was moving up in weight) don't count. People won't be satisfied until he blasts out one of the Klitchskos.

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                • #9
                  I agree to a certain extent.

                  But I don't think Manny needs to fight any of those 147lbers, lol I don't even like Paq but that's just crazy expectations. And I don't agree on Campbell either. Nate hasn't fought since his fight with Juan Diaz, and Campbell didn't even look all that great in that fight. All he did was use brute strength to beat on a stationary Diaz. And I thought Guzman would have really given Nate problems, given Nates performance against Diaz. Guzman's a slick mover with fast hands. I think another fight with Diaz would look better on Juan's behalf in a rematch, just cause I think Juan wouldn't move more on his feet, just move better on his feet.

                  I think Guzman, Juan Diaz, and Juan Marquez are in Paq's realm. I can't think of a fighter at 140 that would give Paq a good fight. I mean there's Hatton, but what Hatton are we gonna see? The work-horse that looks strong? Or the the lunging glass chin? And Victor Ortiz, lol that would suicide for Paq, that's not gonna happen.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ley23 View Post
                    I guess destroying all-time greats like Morales and Barrera (when again Pacquiao was moving up in weight) don't count. People won't be satisfied until he blasts out one of the Klitchskos.
                    That was at a much lighter weight. The OP said Pacquiao fought brilliantly against De La Hoya, he just said the comparisons people are making with people like Henry Armstrong are wrong. Armstrong was undisputed champion at three weights simultaneously, whereas Pacquiao gave up his super-featherweight title and hasn't won any undisputed weight championships since.

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