Tszyu vs De La Hoya & others, how come it didn't happen?

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  • The Jackal
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    #181
    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
    Yes. That is what I'm telling you. A loss AT 140 to Tszyu would have seriously damaged the goods. Why take the risk if there are other paths to WW and beyond where the lucrative fights lay?

    It's the truth....not "nonsense". But, Floyd's nuthuggers have always refused to acknowledge the truth. Oscar DeLaHoya himself stated it best: "Floyd is afraid to take risks." "Floyd is afraid to lose."

    Nothing provides better evidence of DeLaHoya's statement than Floyd's dodging of Kostya Tszyu. How do you claim you're the best JrWW of all time, and not fight Tszyu who was the undisputed JrWW champion???
    Point made since at last on this Floyd should have fought Tszyu to prove his greatness but that fight was a real possibility he could lose as we know Tzsyu can box as well as punch its robbing the boxing fans like us not to get these fights.

    Arturo Gatti proved noting for Floyd yes his beaten DLH but since moving on his beaten no 1 near as good as Tzsyu

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    • Wiley Hyena
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      #182
      Originally posted by wmute
      LOL @ the bold... Zoo *had to* fight Mitchell, comprende?

      Oscar, Mosley and Mayweather did not avoid Zoo. Get the **** over it.

      Shane fought Winky Wright in possibly the highest risk lowest return career choice made in recent times, yet he ducked Zoo...

      Oscar fought Tito, Pea, Quartey, Vargas and Hopkins... no comment

      As for Mayweather, you are being contraticted right now post by post, article by article.

      Just drop it already, Zoo is a helluva fighter, but no one "ducked" him...
      You cannot contradict the evidence I've presented. It is what it is. You can argue it. You can present your own evidence to try and counter it. But, you cannot waive a wand and simply make it disappear. I'm sorry it hurts, but it is what it is.

      Mayweather dodged Kostya Tszyu. Period.

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      • Benny Leonard
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        #183
        Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
        Yes. That is what I'm telling you. A loss AT 140 to Tszyu would have seriously damaged the goods. Why take the risk if there are other paths to WW and beyond where the lucrative fights lay?

        It's the truth....not "nonsense". But, Floyd's nuthuggers have always refused to acknowledge the truth. Oscar DeLaHoya himself stated it best: "Floyd is afraid to take risks." "Floyd is afraid to lose."

        Nothing provides better evidence of DeLaHoya's statement than Floyd's dodging of Kostya Tszyu. How do you claim you're the best JrWW of all time, and not fight Tszyu who was the undisputed JrWW champion???
        It's nonsense: Shane and Oscar both fought tougher opposition.

        For Floyd: Forget what Oscar says; he just ripped on himself by saying the he wasn't a risk for Floyd. Floyd took risks up until he got to 147...which he even admitted he wasn't going to fight and take risks like he did when he was younger; his fighting style changed towards his mindset at the time.

        Did he take the risks he {Oscar} and Shane made; NO. But he did take risks for a time. He did fight the best up until he got to 147. At 147 he did fight the lineal Champ, but he didn't fight the best. And Oscar was champ at 154 where the fight was made.

        Tszyu didn't take risks either; he didn't move up to 147.

        Floyd fought Hatton who beat Tszyu.

        The fight was hard to make because of HBO and Showtime; do you not understand?

        Floyd fought Gatti and Tszyu fought Hatton. After that, that was supposed to be the setup fight for a PPV between the two; with Showtime and HBO coming together because of the $$$$ it would now generate.

        It's a business.

        Tszyu could have always signed with HBO but he stuck with Showtime.

        Floyd went with HBO for obvious reasons: That's where a lot of the big Name fighters were...that's where the O$car was




        Floyd wanted to fight Kostya Tszyu; READ THE ARTICLES.
        Last edited by Benny Leonard; 11-30-2008, 05:31 PM.

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        • Benny Leonard
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          #184
          Originally posted by The Jackal
          Point made since at last on this Floyd should have fought Tszyu to prove his greatness but that fight was a real possibility he could lose as we know Tzsyu can box as well as punch its robbing the boxing fans like us not to get these fights.

          Arturo Gatti proved noting for Floyd yes his beaten DLH but since moving on his beaten no 1 near as good as Tzsyu
          What robbed us was Tszyu losing to Phillips. Tszyu's injuries and inactivity. Tszyu's unwillingness to move up to 147 to fight the HOF caliber fighters.

          What robbed us was Showtime and HBO.

          What robbed us was Tszyu losing to Hatton.

          Timing is everything

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          • Zocalo
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            #185
            I personally would have loved seeing a Mayweather/Hassem fight...

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            • Benny Leonard
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              #186
              Originally posted by Zocalo
              I personally would have loved seeing a Mayweather/Hassem fight...
              To see Naz schooled again?

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              • Zocalo
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                #187
                Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                To see Naz schooled again?

                Well yeah... I also miss his crazy entrances...

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                • DiegoFuego
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                  #188
                  Tszyu got himself knocked out, that's why the Oscar fight never happened. A deal was starting to fall in place, but then Tzyu got KO'd

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                  • Benny Leonard
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                    #189
                    Originally posted by Zocalo
                    Well yeah... I also miss his crazy entrances...
                    Yea; loved watching Naz fight. His interviews were funny.

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                    • wmute
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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                      You cannot contradict the evidence I've presented. It is what it is. You can argue it. You can present your own evidence to try and counter it. But, you cannot waive a wand and simply make it disappear. I'm sorry it hurts, but it is what it is.

                      Mayweather dodged Kostya Tszyu. Period.
                      I don't need to do that because people already linked you to N articles.

                      You did not present anything useful to prove that Mayweather, De La Hoya or Mosley ever dodged Zoo.

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