Tszyu vs De La Hoya & others, how come it didn't happen?

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  • Khmelnytsky
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    Tszyu vs De La Hoya & others, how come it didn't happen?

    first of all i'd like to freely admit that i'm a big Kostya fan and have never really liked Oscar but i'd like to recieve unbias legitimate analysis from more knowlegdable posters than myself

    i didn't follow the lower weight classes at that time, mainly cuz i was quite young at the time so i'm hoping for some true insight

    so how come Tszyu never faced some of the better guys in and around 140 like De La Hoya, Mosley, Chavez earlier, add to list please...

    For example Gonzalez, Kostya fought him not even 2 years after Oscar so i think it's fair to assume Gonzalez wasn't "past it" and is okay to say they faced a similar version of him and i thought Kostya ****d him far better than Oscar did

    is it accurate to say that it is possible with some of his more impressive showings that Kostya looked like too tough of a challege and risk for Oscar and others around his weight during that time? Or did promoters, losses (Phillips), money, networks, and things of that sort the sole blame for it not happening?

    If anyone has real knowledge of the subject and could inform me as to why these didn't happen i'd really appreciate it.

    please don't post if your aim is to have this degenerate into a Oscar is the greatest ever, woulda killed him/Oscar is gay, or Kostya's the best ever/Kostya was scared, i'm hoping for real awnsers
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    Kostya was too big a risk and not enough reward for some of those guys. Mosley jumped the entire weight class to not fight him. Chasing the green. Respect should go to Judah even though he probably had no idea what he was letting himself in for lol

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    • Flawless 2
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      #3
      Real Talk if a bum Phillips could KO him, so could Oscar Mosley Mayweather Williams Clottey all would.

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        Originally posted by Flawless 2
        Real Talk if a bum Phillips could KO him, so could Oscar Mosley Mayweather Williams Clottey all would.
        Wonder why they werent cuing up.

        lol at Williams and Clottey who werent even around until after he retired and not in his division.

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        • Silencers
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          #5
          A Tszyu-DLH fight was very close to happening before Tszyu lost to Phillips, once he lost to Phillips, the talks died down and never really resurfaced.

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          • cuzfozzy
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            #6
            De La Hoya ducked Tszyu as did Mosley .they skipped a whole divisino over

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            • Golden Boy 360
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              #7
              Originally posted by Silencers
              A Tszyu-DLH fight was very close to happening before Tszyu lost to Phillips, once he lost to Phillips, the talks died down and never really resurfaced.
              If it did happen whats your prediction?

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              • Flawless 2
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                #8
                Why would Oscar duck Kostya when he fought bigger stronger faster Tito who is the harder hitter

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                • Wiley Hyena
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Khmelnytsky
                  first of all i'd like to freely admit that i'm a big Kostya fan and have never really liked Oscar but i'd like to recieve unbias legitimate analysis from more knowlegdable posters than myself

                  i didn't follow the lower weight classes at that time, mainly cuz i was quite young at the time so i'm hoping for some true insight

                  so how come Tszyu never faced some of the better guys in and around 140 like De La Hoya, Mosley, Chavez earlier, add to list please...

                  For example Gonzalez, Kostya fought him not even 2 years after Oscar so i think it's fair to assume Gonzalez wasn't "past it" and is okay to say they faced a similar version of him and i thought Kostya ****d him far better than Oscar did

                  is it accurate to say that it is possible with some of his more impressive showings that Kostya looked like too tough of a challege and risk for Oscar and others around his weight during that time? Or did promoters, losses (Phillips), money, networks, and things of that sort the sole blame for it not happening?

                  If anyone has real knowledge of the subject and could inform me as to why these didn't happen i'd really appreciate it.

                  please don't post if your aim is to have this degenerate into a Oscar is the greatest ever, woulda killed him/Oscar is gay, or Kostya's the best ever/Kostya was scared, i'm hoping for real awnsers
                  My friend, you are right on. I will add to that list....please quickly add one Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

                  To further answer your question; DeLaHoya left 140 rather than fight Tszyu. The most common excuse is that he went up to fight the aging Pernel Whitaker. But, the problem is that DLH never came back.

                  Prime Tszyu was the monster to be feared at 140 lbs. Everyone knew. Simply way too much risk to gamble one's superstar status on. Kostya was a great fighter and the first man to unify the Jr.WW division in 30 years. In short, he owned that division. Hence, he was skipped over by the American elites like a flock of geese over the countryside. All flying north so they wouldn't have to face Kostya Tszyu.

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                  • AKATheMack
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Flawless 2
                    Why would Oscar duck Kostya when he fought bigger stronger faster Tito who is the harder hitter
                    Because a Tito fight was worth more money?

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