Who beat the better Hopkins: Jones or Calzaghe?

[Benny Leonard]

How come he managed to sustain it against Kelly Pavlik?

Pavlik was throwing less in that fight as well...not sure why...maybe Hopkins mentally shut him down by using angles so it confused Pavlik. Hopkins was able to set his own pace.

[Easy-E]

Bernard Hopkins lost to Taylor Twice and Taylor isn't half the fighter and Athlete Roy was in his prime. Taylor also has iffy stamina.

Bernard can't beat fighters like Roy which is why he never fought him again.

Bernard was more athletic back then. He threw more punches. He had great stamina. This was his only hope to getting Roy and he couldn't overcome it.

And wasn't Roy's right hand hurt for this fight?

Old Hopkins: Stiff, Stamina Problems, and Doesn't punch enough...43 ****in years old.

Perfect opponent for that: Stiff, Lanky, Tin Man style fighting Middle-weight Pavlik who walks in a straight line and is predictable.

Good post.
And yes, Roy had hand problems during that fight.

[Pugilistic™]

Jones by far.
Hopkins was faster, stronger, more agressive and overall a better fighter.
As for those of you who said Old Hopkins,
Watch the RJJ fight!!

because it is obvious none of you have.

Hopkins was physically better but he didn't have the defense or ring smarts that he has today.

Jones would of had alot more touble with Bernard had he had the experience he has now.

[Benny Leonard]

Hopkins was physically better but he didn't have the defense or ring smarts that he has today.

Jones would of had alot more touble with Bernard had he had the experience he has now.

Being 43 years old, stiff, less punch-out-put, but a good defense, which I never knew Hopkins ever lacked...vs. Middleweight God Roy Jones Jr; will keep the hurt hand version as well.


Experience can be overrated. Warren Beatty has lots of experience with "fornicating" but as he got older, he had to settle down and retire from that life; so he married.

[Pugilistic™]

Being 43 years old, stiff, less punch-out-put, but a good defense, which I never knew Hopkins ever lacked...vs. Middleweight God Roy Jones Jr; will keep the hurt hand version as well.


Experience can be overrated. Warren Beatty has lots of experience with "fornicating" but as he got older, he had to settle down and retire from that life; so he married.

Hopkins had decent defense early in his career but as he got more experienced he went from having decent defense to being near unhittable.

i don't see what you mean by stiff, Hopkins is far from it.

[fightnews55]

I say Calzaghe but since he didn't really win the fight it doesn't matter. Actually Jones probably fought the better Hopkins but Jones was so good at the time they cancelled each other out.Calzaghe sucks either way.He's a fraud.

[them_apples]

I'd sy about equal, but that green version of B-Hop would have beat Calzaghe.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Because Pavlik was alot more predictable, came forward in straight lines and was slow.

Calzaghe attacks in angles, has faster hands and footwork and is alot harder to predict.

People need to give Joe more credit, Although Hopkins argueably won Calzaghe took the fight to Hopkins, outworked him and tired him out when it got to the late stages.

Yes I realise that my good man. You arent a ******.

I wanted to hear the ****** responses.

[Pugilistic™]

Yes I realise that my good man. You arent a ******.

I wanted to hear the ****** responses.

haha.

His username summaries him as a poster.

[bsrizpac]

Pavlik was throwing less in that fight as well...not sure why...maybe Hopkins mentally shut him down by using angles so it confused Pavlik. Hopkins was able to set his own pace.

Dirk is a very simple man. He's like "Simple Jack". He doesn't understand that when you are kicking someone's ass who is not fighting back, you can pretty much do whatever you want no matter what your stamina is.

Yawn.