Who beat the better Hopkins: Jones or Calzaghe?

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  • Silencers
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    #11
    Considering what Hopkins did to Pavlik, I'd say the older version of Hopkins is better, Hopkins was very raw when Jones fought him.

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    • kenso
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      #12
      as far as im concerned, hopkins is in his prime right now.

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      • Southpaw16BF
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        #13
        Jones beat Hopkins alot more convincely! But i think Calzaghe got a better Hopkins, When Jones fought Hopkins, Hopkins was still very raw, it was his first big fight, his first title fight. When Calzaghe fought Hopkins, Hopkins had alot of exprience in big fights, he was very clever at menal mind games at pre fights,and he was coming of 2 great wins over Winky and Tarver, and the fight after proved it even more beating Pavlik.

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        • DA1CATAS
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          #14
          Originally posted by Terrible...
          Jones because when a fighter is incapable of sustaining action in a fight he is on his way to winning because of his age he is being handicapped
          Said a lil funny but we all understand what you meant.

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          • Benny Leonard
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            #15
            Bernard Hopkins lost to Taylor Twice and Taylor isn't half the fighter and Athlete Roy was in his prime. Taylor also has iffy stamina.

            Bernard can't beat fighters like Roy which is why he never fought him again.

            Bernard was more athletic back then. He threw more punches. He had great stamina. This was his only hope to getting Roy and he couldn't overcome it.

            And wasn't Roy's right hand hurt for this fight?

            Old Hopkins: Stiff, Stamina Problems, and Doesn't punch enough...43 ****in years old.

            Perfect opponent for that: Stiff, Lanky, Tin Man style fighting Middle-weight Pavlik who walks in a straight line and is predictable.
            Last edited by Benny Leonard; 11-28-2008, 10:48 AM.

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            • S.G.
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              #16
              Talk about anything boxing related here. Where the boxing discussion is always Non Stop!

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              • Dirk Diggler UK
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                #17
                Originally posted by Terrible...
                Jones because when a fighter is incapable of sustaining action in a fight he is on his way to winning because of his age he is being handicapped
                How come he managed to sustain it against Kelly Pavlik?

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                • Pugilistic™
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  How come he managed to sustain it against Kelly Pavlik?
                  Because Pavlik was alot more predictable, came forward in straight lines and was slow.

                  Calzaghe attacks in angles, has faster hands and footwork and is alot harder to predict.

                  People need to give Joe more credit, Although Hopkins argueably won Calzaghe took the fight to Hopkins, outworked him and tired him out when it got to the late stages.

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                  • Easy-E
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                    #19
                    Jones by far.
                    Hopkins was faster, stronger, more agressive and overall a better fighter.
                    As for those of you who said Old Hopkins,
                    Watch the RJJ fight!!

                    because it is obvious none of you have.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      How come he managed to sustain it against Kelly Pavlik?
                      Pavilk was barley throwing punches, he looked sluggish and overmatched from the opening bell.

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