James Toney: ATG Or Not?

[Truth]

No.

Dariusz M., who decisively defeated someone who beat Toney twice (Griffin) is more of an ATG.

But Toney will recieve the recognition and the Polish fighter will not, because Dariusz 1) is not American and 2) his skin is the wrong color.

To be fair I heard the decisions were very close.

I think its about time we all give Montell Griffin props. LOL

Hes does well against a prime Roy and and beats james Toney twice. Griffin was a damn good light heavy.

[Ryn0]

No.

Dariusz M., who decisively defeated someone who beat Toney twice (Griffin) is more of an ATG.

But Toney will recieve the recognition and the Polish fighter will not, because Dariusz 1) is not American and 2) his skin is the wrong color.

Dariuz wasn't a great fighter, haven't you heard of styles make fights?

Toney moved up from Middleweight to HW, Dariuz had an OK run at LHW and that's it he beat a few GOOD fighters

[Jupiter Maximus]

No.

Dariusz M., who decisively defeated someone who beat Toney twice (Griffin) is more of an ATG.

But Toney will recieve the recognition and the Polish fighter will not, because Dariusz 1) is not American and 2) his skin is the wrong color.

Im american and I can tell you except for nuthugger and black folk...not many ppl would put James in the ATG group

he was HOF w/out a doubt though

[Dynamite Kid]

debatable

his best wins are Reggie Johnson,Nunn,Iran Barkley,

and he had some highly debatable wins over McCallum and he should of lost to Dave Tiberi and Hasim Rahman he also got beat by Montell Griffin twice regardless what people say and he got outworked by Drake Thadzi i watched this fight the other night and Thadzi was too big for him and he him outworked him

his only noteable win after that was beating Jirov and a shot Holyfield

[Truth]

Right now Toney is ahead 14-6.

[Jupiter Maximus]

Dariuz wasn't a great fighter, haven't you heard of styles make fights?

Toney moved up from Middleweight to HW, Dariuz had an OK run at LHW and that's it he beat a few GOOD fighters

He didn't move up directly..so please don't make it sound as such

He got schooled at LHW and at SMW won a strap at CW which he then dropped to goto HW and fizzle out his career

[MELLY-MEL...]

damn right he's an atg!

[Truth]

I knew this would be a good thread. Lots of debate on this topic! keep arguing!! YEaH!!

[Truth]

damn right he's an atg!

oh **** melly mel is mad!!!

tell em why!!

**attempts to stir up controversey**

lol

[MELLY-MEL...]

no need to say why. his record, and accomplishments speak for themselves. Toney is a throwback, and one of the best skilled boxers of the last 2 decades.