Is Calzaghe the Greatest of All Time?

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  • Wiley Hyena
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    #81
    Originally posted by daggum
    calzaghes whole career is based on assumptions of what he could have done. pretty fricking sad.
    But it's no assumption as to what he did. He did beat both Hopkins and Jones. So those "assumptions" become much more plausible if you think about it objectively.

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    • wpink1
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      #82
      He beat both Hopkins (barely) and Jones when they where both 40 or damm close to it. These victories do not mean anything.

      Do you honeslty think Calzaghe could have lasted 5 rounds with a prime roy? not a chance

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      • royjonesjr11
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        prime roy wud have ripped joe calzaghe apart. i think hopkins won the fight back in april. calzaghe can't call himself a BOXER, he is simply a tremendous athlete with incredible stamina and has the uncanny ability to throw over 1000 punches a fight, so he's decided to use that athleticism to overwhelm his opponents not through boxing skill, but unfortunately just through this natural gift of his to overwhelm his opponents with over 100 punches a round. his actual boxing talent is not much in credit to his wins where as true ATG's such a pretty boy floyd or ali beat their opponents thru SHEER BOXING TALENT and RAW SKILL. you simply can't admire calzaghe as a boxer? go down to ur local boxing gym, do you see the young lads copying the footwork/boxing technique of true ATG's like ali, rjjr, floyd or lowlifes like calzaghe? there's your answer. nowhere near top 50 ATG is my opinion. his record is impressive but it is a fraud

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          #84
          Originally posted by royjonesjr11
          prime roy wud have ripped joe calzaghe apart. i think hopkins won the fight back in april. calzaghe can't call himself a BOXER, he is simply a tremendous athlete with incredible stamina and has the uncanny ability to throw over 1000 punches a fight, so he's decided to use that athleticism to overwhelm his opponents not through boxing skill, but unfortunately just through this natural gift of his to overwhelm his opponents with over 100 punches a round. his actual boxing talent is not much in credit to his wins where as true ATG's such a pretty boy floyd or ali beat their opponents thru SHEER BOXING TALENT and RAW SKILL. you simply can't admire calzaghe as a boxer? go down to ur local boxing gym, do you see the young lads copying the footwork/boxing technique of true ATG's like ali, rjjr, floyd or lowlifes like calzaghe? there's your answer. nowhere near top 50 ATG is my opinion. his record is impressive but it is a fraud
          His record is impressive but is also a fraud? How does that one work?

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          • Wiley Hyena
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            #85
            Originally posted by royjonesjr11
            prime roy wud have ripped joe calzaghe apart. i think hopkins won the fight back in april. calzaghe can't call himself a BOXER, he is simply a tremendous athlete with incredible stamina and has the uncanny ability to throw over 1000 punches a fight, so he's decided to use that athleticism to overwhelm his opponents not through boxing skill, but unfortunately just through this natural gift of his to overwhelm his opponents with over 100 punches a round. his actual boxing talent is not much in credit to his wins where as true ATG's such a pretty boy floyd or ali beat their opponents thru SHEER BOXING TALENT and RAW SKILL. you simply can't admire calzaghe as a boxer? go down to ur local boxing gym, do you see the young lads copying the footwork/boxing technique of true ATG's like ali, rjjr, floyd or lowlifes like calzaghe? there's your answer. nowhere near top 50 ATG is my opinion. his record is impressive but it is a fraud
            How can you spew such biased excrement and retain any sense of credibility?

            Calzaghe's talent is based on a unique skill. He's both right and left handed. I'll bet you didn't know that. I don't know of one other major boxer that had such an ability. Perhaps you can now make sense of what you see when you watch Calzaghe at work. Only a great boxer could connect with 1000 punches in one fight...I don't care if it's strictly athletisicm, technique, or a combination of both. Get real. Calzaghe is amazing.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
              How can you spew such biased excrement and retain any sense of credibility?

              Calzaghe's talent is based on a unique skill. He's both right and left handed. I'll bet you didn't know that. I don't know of one other major boxer that had such an ability. Perhaps you can now make sense of what you see when you watch Calzaghe at work. Only a great boxer could connect with 1000 punches in one fight...I don't care if it's strictly athletisicm, technique, or a combination of both. Get real. Calzaghe is amazing.
              Pots and kettles can be fun.

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              • Wiley Hyena
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                #87
                Originally posted by danc1984
                Pots and kettles can be fun.
                ROFL! I'm done for tonight. Good night gang.

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                • robjr
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                  #88
                  just a big lol at thread title.

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                  • C.Y.
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
                    No....we're not talking about Mayweather here. Leave him out of it. He doesn't belong in the discussion.
                    i honestly dont know how u can love calzaghe and praise his accomplishments yet hate on mayweather a guy that has beaten better opposition and accomplished more than calzaghe

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                    • K-Nan
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by pesticid
                      Zaghe's got the best defense of a pressure fighter with his hands down period. There is never been a pressure fighter fighting with the hands on his hips and getting hit as little as Joe did.
                      That is not defense, its reflexes. He sees punches very well.

                      Edit: As for the threadstarter's question- I don't really know what the objective of the question is, but no. Just... no.

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