bernard hopkins cannot beat chad dawson.

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What?

The fact that he got up off the canvas, didn't even look phased, and won both fights should tell you all you need to know about his chin. Jeez.

That says nothing about his chin and everything about his heart and recuperative abilities.

[egreezy]

What?

The fact that he got up off the canvas, didn't even look phased, and won both fights should tell you all you need to know about his chin. Jeez.

And for the record, Hopkins would confuse the **** out of Dawson. No way Dawson wins. Hopkins is way too smart.

I never said anything about after the knockdown, he was hurt by Jones knockdown because he has more power. My point was what other fighter that has been knocked down in 2 consecutive fights to ppl in this forum claim to have an elite chin besides Calzaghe.

[ИATAS]

but as i said, hopkins is not, i repeat is not johnson.he does not fight like him.so for anyone to bring that fight up is misinformed.

No, it's a valid point! Hopkins is a better fighter then johnson by lightyears and the fact that johnson is a come forward aggressive fighter doesn't matter because his punches are sloppy, wide and slow..........and Dawson was still getting pounded on!! Hopkins is a smart, very accurate fighter. He doesn't throw as much as Johnson, but when he does his punches matter. Dawson will eat the right hand all day. I hope they fight so I can quote myself on that

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his workrate was good in pavlik fight, not as much in tarver, calzaghe, wright. how would you compare Dawson's workrate, movement to Taylor's? calzaghe been dropped in last 2 fights and ppl still declare he has elite chin, i dont see this being said about any other fighter thats been dropped. i just don't see hopkins winning a decision against someone who throws combos like that.

Hopkins threw more in the winky fight than wright did and winky was known for his good workrate, He only got outworked in the Calzaghe fight but to be fair Calzaghe can outwork anyone. Calzaghe was dropped by good punches, Had Hopkins and Jones landed those on Dawson he probably would of been out.

Dawson throw good combos but will Hopkins let him get in range to throw combos ?? Will he throw combos when he continously gets tagged by lead left hooks and right hands ?? He will need more the combinations to beat Hopkins.

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Taylor fought a lot differently back then and is much more athletic then dawson will ever be. Calzaghe doesn't have great defense but the main different with him is that he's awkward as **** and comes from all angles. Dawson's style is very simple and I just wonder, when bhop takes away his main weapon will dawson be able to adapt to a plan b or c? The only fighter I've ever seen able to adjust to Hopkins was Calzaghe and it wasn't very much. Tarver, Pavlik, Trinidad, Wright, etc. couldn't do **** when their best weapons were neutralized. And that's what bhop does to his opponents- he takes away their best weapon (pavlik/Tarver's 1-2 punch, Trinidads left hook, winky's jab, Calzaghe's workrate (cut it in half), etc.).

what is dawson's best weapon?

How many Calzaghe fights have you actually watched?

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your going on ingore for the remainder of this thread.

[AntonTheMeh]

No, it's a valid point! Hopkins is a better fighter then johnson by lightyears and the fact that johnson is a come forward aggressive fighter doesn't matter because his punches are sloppy, wide and slow..........and Dawson was still getting pounded on!! Hopkins is a smart, very accurate fighter. He doesn't throw as much as Johnson, but when he does his punches matter. Dawson will eat the right hand all day. I hope they fight so I can quote myself on that

dude, that's the point.he's a differnt fighter.did i say he was better?no.as far as johnsons style,

mayorga>forrest

styles.make.fights.

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what is dawson's best weapon?

Interestingly enough, I'm not sure if Dawson is a standout in any one particular area. But I think he can dictate the pace against Hopkins by using movement. Just zipping in and out and putting pressure on Hopkins' legs.

Pavlik let Hopkins dictate but that was mainly because he relied on that "best weapon." His right hand. It's why Hops kept saying it was gonna be a lot like the Tito fight.

[AntonTheMeh]

Interestingly enough, I'm not sure if Dawson is a standout in any one particular area. But I think he can dictate the pace against Hopkins by using movement. Just zipping in and out and putting pressure on Hopkins' legs.

Pavlik let Hopkins dictate but that was mainly because he relied on that "best weapon." His right hand. It's why Hops kept saying it was gonna be a lot like the Tito fight.

exactamente.

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dude, that's the point.he's a differnt fighter.did i say he was better?no.as far as johnsons style,

mayorga>forrest

styles.make.fights.

so you are saying that only Johnson's style is effective against Dawson.

What about a great defensively accurate counterpuncher ??

I think Hopkins accurate counters, defense, dirty tactics and movement would pose tons of problems for Dawson.

Also if Johnson could hurt him Hopkins for sure can.

[egreezy]

Had Hopkins and Jones landed those on Dawson he probably would of been out.

Dawson throw good combos but will Hopkins let him get in range to throw combos ?? Will he throw combos when he continously gets tagged by lead left hooks and right hands ?? He will need more the combinations to beat Hopkins.

Highly unlikely those punches would KO Dawson, I understand you prefer Hopkins but I've seen him withstand harder punches without falling? Hopkins can stop him at times from getting range to throw combos, have his left hook and right, but not enough to win a decision over someone quicker with faster handspeed. Who was last fighter similar to Dawson that Hopkins has defeated. And I can't see Dawson losing by decision if Taylor can get 2 decisions over him.