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Actually MMA is dying slowly. UFC has lost most of its stars and the few remaining are on their way out (Anderson Silva, Couture etc) and other MMA organizations like elitefc or whatever just got shuttered and bankrupted completely. MMA is dying not slowly but relatively fast.
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My main gripe with MMA is if you watch TUF, you see a bunch of guys acting like ****ing children when they're in the house together. I've also heard more than once about fighters going out on the town starting fights and thinking they have it made because they are in the UFC.
They wear jeans and an Affliction T-shirt 100% of the time, not even taking a single second to realize that they (especially their champions) should look the part of someone who is representing an entire organization. ****, even Dana White hardly ever wears a suit. It gives off the impression that they are all just a bunch of ****** club fighters who are doing this because they aren't good at anything else.
My question is: Have you ever heard of boxers doing this **** on a consistent basis? No. Because in general, boxers have discipline. They learn respect right when they step into a gym.Last edited by Madvillain; 11-12-2008, 06:08 PM.Comment
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He's slowly ruining his own company
Who gives a **** what he thinks.Comment
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Yea boxing is dying alright.
And MMA dominates ESPN as someone said. That's why Boxing has its own header on espn.com and MMA is stuck between Lacross and Horse Racing under the "MORE" menu.
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actually MMA is on a bit of a wane but it's still immensely popular the model Dana has in place still makes it a very lucrative product
1. keep fighter purses at a manageable level. For the most part, unless you are in the main event you dont get bug sums of money. For example here is ufc 88's fighter payroll:
Rashad Evans ($120,000/$60,000 for show and $60,000 win bonus) def. Chuck Liddell ($500,000)
Rich Franklin ($100,000/$50,000 for show and $50,000 win bonus) def. Matt Hamill ($10,000)
Dan Henderson ($250,000/$100,000 for show and $150,000 win bonus) def. Rousimar Palhares ($7,000)
Nate Marquardt ($56,000/$28,000 for show and $28,000 win bonus) def. Martin Kampmann ($15,000)
Dong Hyun Kim ($46,000/$23,000 for show and $23,000 win bonus) def. Matt Brown ($8,000)
Kurt Pellegrino ($24,000/$12,000 for show and $12,000 win bonus) def. Thiago Tavares ($5,000)
Tim Boetsch ($16,000/$8,000 for show and $8,000 win bonus) def. Mike Patt ($5,000)
Jason MacDonald ($44,000/$22,000 for show and $22,000 win bonus) def. Jason Lambert ($17,000)
Ryo Chonan ($30,000/$15,000 for show and $15,000 win bonus) def. Roan Carneiro ($9,000)
This does not include bonuses award money.
Total $1,220,000 [5]
thats roughly one fighter's purse in boxing. The overhead in UFC is miniscule compared to boxing and thus it has more money in it's coiffers to look at avenues to generate more revenue such as reality shows, weekly fight cards etc.
2. because basically everyone gets the same amount it is easier to pit competitive matchups rather than going through some crazy negotiation process in order to get two guys to fight like in boxing. this brings more consistenc in his product thus better matchups and better PPVs as a whole
3. no reliance on networks for money. Since he doesn't have to cater to a network's needs Dana can essentially run the entire show from top to bottom without worrying about oh say HBO's agenda to push certain fighters. White is now free to run his company, create his cards, and find his cities as he sees fit
4. no reliance on casino money either. This enables EVERYONE to see UFCs from Cleveland to Anaheim. Large boxing cards for the most get relegated to Vegas or AC because casinos are willing to put up more money then any other arena or venue.
5. **** for your buck. How many fights do you get in a UFC? 7 8 maybe and each one has some note of interest to it. In boxing we are lucky to get 5 with 3 of those usually some star vs some stiff (Judah Johnson anyone) or some piddly prospect who the promoters are trying to push (Salita ugh). In UFC you fight, comparable opponents and if you lose no worries we will match you up against someone anyways. Boxing is scared of losing to the point where they protect their fighters
the are other points but this is the gist of how you run a sport
and personally I rarely if ever watch MMA (I have two fighters I am working with for my company) but I do recognize a model of success when I see oneComment
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fuuck you dana. i like MMA too but UFC is the only popular company to put on a show. they can't even make it close to boxing events. didn't elitexc shut down? mma died first u fuucking ***get.Comment
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Golden Glove is a dumbass. I am right and this backs me up. Look at Courture. A main eventer in one of the biggest MMA events. 16-8 Vs 2-1. What boxing match would ever main event this. Latin Fury is freaking better. Rampage jackson has 7 losses. In boxing a guy that has only 27 wins and 7 losses would not be looked as a top 25 P4P guy. BJ Penn 13-4?? That is what I am talking about how MMA guys will never be able to bring a huge event like boxing. If a MMA'r was to go 39-0 he would be considered the greatest of all time and to match him against a 41-0 fighter, it just wont happen. In MMA you can be 16-8 and be considered amazing I guess but that won't carry your sport. When you lose multiple times you lose fanbase, look at Kimbo 3-0 and now hes nothing after a loss. Same goes for Lesner if he loses. MMA is strictly a crapshoot, unlike boxing where the better athletes win and are able to build up a good record.Last edited by Check; 11-12-2008, 07:21 PM.Comment
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fuck that ***** ass nigga with his ***** ass nameComment
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Boxing is slowly dying yet the biggest MMA fight ever is between a 43 year old man with a 16-8 record against a guy who has been doing his sport for two years with a 2-1 record.
MMA is hype!!
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