James Toney Appreciation Thread

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  • Xyei
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    #41
    Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
    **** man, i cant talk **** about toney no more, if he were more motivated and in shape, he would be competing today and he in my opinion wouldve beaten the crap outta the ***** calzgayshe at same weight
    Yeah, it's a shame that he couldn't keep himself in shape. He could have been one of the greatest. It also pisses me off that he took roids It ruined his ass whoopin he put on Ruiz. That really tarnished his legacy.

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    • Dynamite Kid
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      #42
      Originally posted by Pride Of Arkans
      By the was Toney robbed Mike McCallum twice
      i thought McCallum won the 2nd the first could of been a draw but Toney had a GREAT last round that probably swung it for him but there was nothing in those fights they could of gone either way

      there are some fights that are almost impossible to score and these fights were that kinda fights

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        #43
        Originally posted by Terrible...
        i thought McCallum won the 2nd the first could of been a draw but Toney had a GREAT last round that probably swung it for him but there was nothing in those fights they could of gone either way

        there are some fights that are almost impossible to score and these fights were that kinda fights
        At least Toney had the sack to fight a prime McCallum at middleweight.

        RJJ waited until he was old and washed up and then fought him at LHW where he would have every advantage.

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        • TheGreatA
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          #44
          Originally posted by Terrible...
          i thought McCallum won the 2nd the first could of been a draw but Toney had a GREAT last round that probably swung it for him but there was nothing in those fights they could of gone either way

          there are some fights that are almost impossible to score and these fights were that kinda fights
          McCallum had an amazing chin to take what Toney gave during the last round.

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          • Tha_Greatest
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            #45
            Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44
            take your **** talking somewhere else

            from what ive seen on toney in interviews etc he seems a cool guy

            hasnt really beat anyone???

            he was p4p #1, he beat nunn, barkely, holyfield, McCallum, and was robbed against montell griffin

            and hes fought jones, rahman, peter, ruiz.......

            the guys a freaking legend
            he also beat jirov but toney shouldnt compete at heavyweight, he should have stayed at cruiserweight cause he never really did anything noteworthy at heavy but beat grandpa evander at heavy but if he stayed a cruiser or light heavy, he would be next in line to get robbed by calzaghe in another bad decision(BHop) for calslappy where calslappy calls toney a rascist for over and over

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              #46
              Originally posted by TheManchine
              McCallum had an amazing chin to take what Toney gave during the last round.


              Yeah agreed

              he got slightly hurt by Julian Jackson but who did'nt get hurt by Jackson and he came back and put a beat down on Jackson the guy had an awesome chin he is one of my fav fighters of all time

              McCallum was one tough SOB aswell he had real tough hard fight with Bomber Graham

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                #47
                Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
                he also beat jirov but toney shouldnt compete at heavyweight, he should have stayed at cruiserweight cause he never really did anything noteworthy at heavy but beat grandpa evander at heavy but if he stayed a cruiser or light heavy, he would be next in line to get robbed by calzaghe in another bad decision(BHop) for calslappy where calslappy calls toney a rascist for over and over
                I think the Jirov win was his second best win IMO after Nunn. Jirov was undefeated and he had a few of those major titles at cruiser weight. I remember watching him come off of the Olympics and i just knew that he would be dominate. He was a southpaw, an excellent body puncher and very exciting. The Toney fight took it all from him, and he was never the same again. Its just like he had a mental block. He had Joe Mesi hurt bad about 4 times during the fight and would be winning whenever ht let his hands go, but he didn't believe in himself so he was just passive.

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                • Tha_Greatest
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                  Yeah, it's a shame that he couldn't keep himself in shape. He could have been one of the greatest. It also pisses me off that he took roids It ruined his ass whoopin he put on Ruiz. That really tarnished his legacy.
                  whenever i thought about toney pre heavyweight , i first thought maybe one of the best potentially, now i just think hes a fat slob journeyman who talks alot of **** at heavyweight

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                  • Dynamite Kid
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Hitman932
                    At least Toney had the sack to fight a prime McCallum at middleweight.

                    RJJ waited until he was old and washed up and then fought him at LHW where he would have every advantage.
                    dont you think Toney's activity and willingness to always fight the best is what cost him sometimes ?the guy would have fought every week if you let him

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                      Yeah, it's a shame that he couldn't keep himself in shape. He could have been one of the greatest. It also pisses me off that he took roids It ruined his ass whoopin he put on Ruiz. That really tarnished his legacy.
                      I believe Toney when he says that they were to recover from injuries. Steroids don't make you stronger, they allow you to work out harder and more often. Fat Toney just didn't have the body of a guy taking advantage of that.

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