James Toney Appreciation Thread

[Dynamite Kid]

I think the Jirov win was his second best win IMO after Nunn. Jirov was undefeated and he had a few of those major titles at cruiser weight. I remember watching him come off of the Olympics and i just knew that he would be dominate. He was a southpaw, an excellent body puncher and very exciting. The Toney fight took it all from him, and he was never the same again. Its just like he had a mental block. He had Joe Mesi hurt bad about 4 times during the fight and would be winning whenever ht let his hands go, but he didn't believe in himself so he was just passive.

hey Slick i just saw your Sweet Pea avator

i watched Whitaker v McGirt 2 the other day what a fight i thought Whitaker had no balls based on his fights with ODLH,Chavez,Nelson,until i saw that he sat down on his shots and actually took it too Buddy and hurt him occasionally

[Tha_Greatest]

I think the Jirov win was his second best win IMO after Nunn. Jirov was undefeated and he had a few of those major titles at cruiser weight. I remember watching him come off of the Olympics and i just knew that he would be dominate. He was a southpaw, an excellent body puncher and very exciting. The Toney fight took it all from him, and he was never the same again. Its just like he had a mental block. He had Joe Mesi hurt bad about 4 times during the fight and would be winning whenever ht let his hands go, but he didn't believe in himself so he was just passive.

i thought that was his greatest victory because he was too old and jirov was a young buck who was on top, gramps surprised me in the 12th where he kdd jirov for a 2 point round in a close decision where toney pulled off the victory by one point in my opinion

[KostyaTszyu44]

he also beat jirov but toney shouldnt compete at heavyweight, he should have stayed at cruiserweight cause he never really did anything noteworthy at heavy but beat grandpa evander at heavy but if he stayed a cruiser or light heavy, he would be next in line to get robbed by calzaghe in another bad decision(BHop) for calslappy where calslappy calls toney a rascist for over and over

hmm you make a decent point there


toney would clean up at CW, but at this stage of his career i think hes just too old and lazy to get down to 200

[Dynamite Kid]

i thought that was his greatest victory because he was too old and jirov was a young buck who was on top, gramps surprised me in the 12th where he kdd jirov for a 2 point round in a close decision where toney pulled off the victory by one point in my opinion

Toney had some awesome knockouts late on did'nt he

he did Nunn,Jirov,Prince Charles all near the end of the fight

my fav Toney move was when someone rushed at him and reached with the jab he would pat the jab down and come over the top with a right hand just the way Tommy Hearns used to do come to think of it i bet that is where he got the move from

[KostyaTszyu44]

You said the only good fighter Toney beat was Evander Holyfield. Were you serious about that?

I said Holyfeild was his biggest win and thats true.

evander holyfield??? toney's biggest win???

open your eyes man, wow thats what you call ******ity

[TheGreatA]

hey Slick i just saw your Sweet Pea avator

i watched Whitaker v McGirt 2 the other day what a fight i thought Whitaker had no balls based on his fights with ODLH,Chavez,Nelson,until i saw that he sat down on his shots and actually took it too Buddy and hurt him occasionally

Did you watch Whitaker against Hurtado and Trinidad? I thought he showed a ton of heart in those fights.

He used to say he would quit even if he only got cut in a fight but he certainly didn't quit against them even though he was behind and past his prime.

[slicksouthpaw16]

hey Slick i just saw your Sweet Pea avator

i watched Whitaker v McGirt 2 the other day what a fight i thought Whitaker had no balls based on his fights with ODLH,Chavez,Nelson,until i saw that he sat down on his shots and actually took it too Buddy and hurt him occasionally

Yeah he could show power when he chose to. You should see his fight with Hurtado. Not only did he knock him out but it was brutal..lol. Hurtado was out for a long time. It was the fight to set up his fight with Oscar and he was past his prime, and that was a time that was more reliant on his power. Hurtado's( was unbeaten at the time) style was giving his trouble though, and he dropped pea about 2 times.

He also had Roger Mayweather pretty hurt to, he dropped him with a rook hook. Mayweather was never known for his chin though.

[Dynamite Kid]

Did you watch Whitaker against Hurtado and Trinidad? I thought he showed a ton of heart in those fights.

nah not yet

the only Tito fights i have not seen are Pineda,Cherifi,Whitaker ive been meaning to watch it coincidentally

[The Scientist]

When you see Toney fight, there is a lot of the old master's influences in his game. You'll see some Jersey Joe Walcott, Archie Moore, and a little of Ezzard in there, very entertaining to watch overall. I can't relate to **** talkers, but I have to admit hearing James talke all that jazz is sometimes very funny.

[TheGreatA]

Yeah he could show power when he chose to. You should see his fight with Hurtado. Not only did he knock him out but it was brutal..lol. Hurtado was out for a long time. It was the fight to set up his fight with Oscar and he will past his prime, and that was a time that was more reliant on his power. Hurtado's( was unbeaten at the time) style was giving his trouble though, and he dropped pea about 2 times.

He also had Roger Mayweather pretty hurt to, he dropped him with a rook hook. Mayweather was never known for his chin though.

nah not yet

the only Tito fights i have not seen are Pineda,Cherifi,Whitaker ive been meaning to watch it coincidentally

Trinidad was stunned a little by Whitaker which surprised me but other than that he beat up an old Whitaker as well as he should have.