Was Roy a bad opponent?

[Mersey]

I think the Calzaghe win deserves a little bit more credit than he gets. Only a bit though.

Roy is by far from his best, but he isn't as bad as people thought, as we seen in the Lacy fight. (I know it's only Lacy)

[Chr0nic]

I think the Calzaghe win deserves a little bit more credit than he gets. Only a bit though.

Roy is by far from his best, but he isn't as bad as people thought, as we seen in the Lacy fight. (I know it's only Lacy)

you people should really make up your mind, was it all lacy or just roy jones?

[Stoppage]

Roy was past his prime for sure. Not the same at all. The fight was good for him because it made him good money, though.

[Dynamite Kid]

Bottom line is...........

Roy Jones spent most of the fight trapped against the ropes, if you have seen more than 10 Roy Jones fights in his prime you will know he spends most of his time in centre ring but against Calzaghe and Lacy he spent most the fight on the ropes.

[The_Demon]

it was an old roy jones,and calzaghe beat him up-its pretty simple

[Dambala]

Roy was way past his prime as everyone knows, but I give Calzaghe a lot of credit, he wasn't on his prime neither. Prime for prime Roy would've beat him.

[Fulcrum29]

The bout in Madison Square Garden, between undefeated Joe Calzaghe and former 4-weight world champion and future hall of famer Roy Jones Jr. is by many considered as a one-sided fight in which Joe Calzaghe outboxed and outworked Roy Jones Jr. with ease.

But was this fight just another usual Calzaghe dominance or is that not the true story about this fight?

I respectfully disagree.

Well first of all Roy Jones Jr. has never been a 8-10 combination fighter and has never fought a guy, whose pace is as fast as Joe Calzaghes'. He has never fought a guy who hits so much as Joe Calzaghe, and to prove that point Calzaghe had already in round 9 thrown more punches at Roy than anyone else has ever accomplished, which the cut also resembled.

The first round is a pretty equal round, until Calzaghe recieves a 1-2 combination to his chin and tastes the canvas, plus he looses the round, on all three judges scorecards.
Now let's just sum up what happens, and basicly this is my theory.

Calzaghe doesn't get knocked down by a flash knockdown, as we saw in the Bernard Hopkins fight, and Joe Calzaghe wasn't off balance. This was a clean knockdown by two hard hits, even though one of them was by the wrist. Calzaghe has only been down four times in his caréer, he has proved his chin several times. But this time was different, he was off to a fresh and offensive start, so what took him down, was the power of Roy Jones Jr., let's settle here for a moment.

I've watched round 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11 and 12 in slowmotion, because I noticed something while watching the fight live, I noticed how many times Roy Jones Jr. hits Calzaghe clean and very hard during the fight, at least 15-20 very hard punches, that I don't believe anyone could have gone through like Joe Calzaghe did. Calzaghe on the other hand made the punches look like baby slaps the way he took them, he intimidated Roy Jones Jr., while fooling the world into believe that the punches he took was nothing compared to his rate of hits.

After watching the fight in slowmotion I'm not in the smallest doubt that Calzaghe won this fight fairly big and comfortable, but I think the way he won, by teasing, intimidating and keeping a fast pace was the reason for people saying that Roy Jones Jr. was only a shadow of himself and what he once was in a boxing ring. Now hear me out before you starts flaming this thread.
One of the reasons why I think that these punches made such a big impact on Calzaghe is because of something I've never seen him do. Misjudging his own ringside. 4 out of 12 rounds he misjudges his own ringside, one of them following Roy Jones to his corner, until the referre wakes him up. I have never in any Joe Calzaghe fights, not even the fight against Bernard Hopkins, see him misjudging even one time. This is the first time ever for Joe Calzaghe, and when he suddenly misjudges 4 out of 12 rounds, I think it's a statement of it's own, he was being hit, he was being hit hard.

So basicly my theory is that Roy Jones Jr. didn't underperform this bout, he boxed a very good fight and he deserves much more respect, especially by the Roy Jones fans, than he is getting now. Let my point be proved or disproved if he boxes again and let that be the final words of this thread.

Nice attempt to come off neutral and pretend you're giving Roy props in a bait thread that's aimed at legitimizing "Calzaghe's win" over a faded Roy as a retort attempt at the slew of recent accusations that if last week's Roy showed up at the Calzaghe fight, Calzaghe would have lost.

[hookoutofhell]

really good post

i remember right after the fight i was so pissed (being the obsessed Roy fan i am) i was saying Joe got lucky. and all my mates were lookin at me funny like nah bruv Roy took a beating i begged to differ.

i watched the fight again recently aswell and i can remember even when i watched it live that Roy was hitting Calzaghe with hard straight right hands but Joe was just takin them i thought maybe Roy had lost his power but now i put it down to Joe's sheer determination and good chin that made him able to take those shots and still keep coming at him.
him and enzo must have known that if they just kept going at Roy an attacking he wouldn't be able to cope. the cut played a huge part aswell not saying it would have been any different because i still think Calzaghe would've won but it did seriously hamper Jones who up untill that fight had never been cut in his whole career as far as im aware

roy is not a puncher though and never has been, roy's KD's and KO's came in his prime and came when he still had that speed. there were very often flash KD's that did the damage because the opponent simply never saw the punch coming. now since has gotten old rjj's speed has left him and hes forced to rely on his punch, problem is iv said before rjj's never been a ****er so we'll see him landing plenty of shots but he won't be getting many KO's.

as for calz i believe that he got tagged a bit more than i expect him to but thats because a) calz age has diminshed his own reflexes 2) rjj even at 40 is quicker than anyone else calz has faced. however as mentioned before rjj doesn't have a punch and because of that even though he was hitting calz he was never going to hurt him.

rjj ranks as a good win for calz, maybe in the same bracket as his wins over sheika and brewer. but imo wins over kess, eubank and hopkins are better wins for calzghe.

[boxing_great]

prime roy jones ko's calzaghe in 5.

[Scary]

Nice attempt to come off neutral and pretend you're giving Roy props in a bait thread that's aimed at legitimizing "Calzaghe's win" over a faded Roy as a retort attempt at the slew of recent accusations that if last week's Roy showed up at the Calzaghe fight, Calzaghe would have lost.

I believe it was a very good win, if Roy Jones is just as impressive against Allan Green, what then? Will you still call him a shot fighter? Or no, wait, you are basicly saying that Roy was only shot against Joe Calzaghe. Well that makes much sense... Pathetic.

Jesus christ.