New Ring Ratings: Darchinyan not in top 10 P4P

[Eaner0919]

OK Earner same question goes to you. Give me 2 fighters in the 120 or lower that has a solid resume better than Vics.

two?

hmmm pretty tough but to be honest with you short of Calderon (who hasnt lost and moved up to face the perceived best fight at 108 twice) I dont see two. HOWEVER, short of Calderon I don't have any fighter below 122 in serious consideration of being a top ten p4p fighter so I am not sure why this point makes any claims valid

care to explain?

[AntonTheMeh]

Hey bro that doesnt automatically make you p4p. Montiel fought Luis Melendez when Melendez was 135 on fight night. Why isnt he p4p?

he was going up in weight.he beat cazares.that's all there is to it.
if vic beats donaire he gets in.
the fact is, he got ko'd by someone who isn't on the list.
how would it look if a guy who ko'd him isn't?
it doesn't make sense.

montiel was the champion.and melendez wasn't moving up in weight like calderon did.

[ragingvic]

he was going up in weight.he beat cazares.that's all there is to it.
if vic beats donaire he gets in.
the fact is, he got ko'd by someone who isn't on the list.
how would it look if a guy who ko'd him isn't?
it doesn't make sense.
montiel was the champion.and melendez wasn't moving up in weight like calderon did.

Look i agree, but thats not a rule as can be seen by margarito being in the p4p before pw.

[MELLY-MEL...]

OK Earner same question goes to you. Give me 2 fighters in the 120 or lower that has a solid resume better than Vics.

weight has **** all to do with it. p4p is the best fighters regardless of weight class. just because vic may or may not have the best resume 120 or lower it does not give him the p4p status. don't work like that.

[Eaner0919]

Like i said your reaching. Any fighter can be critciszed the way you have criticised vics opponents and his resume. Any fighter.

well I gave you my reply and yet you havent given me one reason why these fighters should be considered top wins. Cmon man break it down I want to see your boxing knowledge.

and it's funny how you are all sore about this yet I give Vic 100% credit for this win. Ask Vanesboxing I was amazed at how easy it was for Vic to outbox the boxer and told him that when I interviewed Vic

[ragingvic]

well I gave you my reply and yet you havent given me one reason why these fighters should be considered top wins. Cmon man break it down I want to see your boxing knowledge.

and it's funny how you are all sore about this yet I give Vic 100% credit for this win. Ask Vanesboxing I was amazed at how easy it was for Vic to outbox the boxer and told him that when I interviewed Vic

Like i said its veeerrry easy to crticise any fighter resume. Give me a name of someon who deserves to be on the p4p more then vic and watch me use you downplaying style to make it seem like they have beat nobody.

[AntonTheMeh]

Look i agree, but thats not a rule as can be seen by margarito being in the p4p before pw.

paul williams didn't ko marga.williams was obviously higher than marga after his win over him.but then he lost to quintana.and quintana lost to cotto.this whole ****ing thing has a buncha loose ends.like i said, he's a win away.montiel or donaire puts him there.he either gets revenge or he becomes undisputed and gets in.

[ragingvic]

weight has **** all to do with it. p4p is the best fighters regardless of weight class. just because vic may or may not have the best resume 120 or lower it does not give him the p4p status. don't work like that.

You ignred my question mel, why was pavlik p4p after beating taylor.

[ragingvic]

paul williams didn't ko marga.williams was obviously higher than marga after his win over him.but then he lost to quintana.and quintana lost to cotto.this whole ****ing thing has a buncha loose ends.like i said, he's a win away.montiel or donaire puts him there.he either gets revenge or he becomes undisputed and gets in.

I dont think traingle theories work in picking p4p. But hey im not saying your wrong for not thinkning his p4p, i just happen to think he should due to the way it has been done recently. Thats all.

[Steak]

honestly, Im not too impressed with Vic. but he just got a very important, dominant win. he should get credit for it, and probebly deserves to be number 10 on the list for the time being.