New Ring Ratings: Darchinyan not in top 10 P4P

[Eaner0919]

Like i told you before vic beat the people who wwere and conitnue to be considered the best in the class he was in, done. Your boxing "knowledge" as you say is based on finding the tiny details of a fighters history or a certain fight to take away credit for it. If Pachecho was so dominant, why did he get ktfo. I can do what you did with vics resume with the greates fighters available, floyd, roy jones, bhop, you name it excuses are easy victories are not.

Honestly I dont think you know the fighters you listed but went on to list them anyways or else why wouldn't you tell me why you think they were good wins, well good enough to make Vic's case as to being p4p.

and sorry but these arent tiny details as you say

kirilov DID come off of a draw with a 22-8 fighter right before facing Vic. Kirilov did get a controversial decision in his homeland over Navarro that if it werent for the knockdown would have been a draw. How are those tiny?

Z Gorres doesnt have a name on his resume. Z Gorres is a hometown fighter. How are those tiny?

Pacheco was giving Vic a hard time. There was a ten minute delay. Again how are those tiny details

but go on keep asking a question every time your theories get swatted down

Ill wait

[ragingvic]

Look mel and eaner as much as im enjoying our conversation right now, i really got to be going. Im not running from the convo and i promise to pick this up with you guys later on. Its fine if you dont think he is p4p, i do, but just dont try to make it seem like the lil fuc*er has been wasting his years in boxing and not beating anybody.

[Eaner0919]

i guess i should have said examples/criteria, such as that of margairto or that of pavlik, or even PW, why is he p4p.

we can use Margarito since I know his fights more than the others

lets see

Ring Rankings

1. Tony
2. Williams
3. Cotto
4. Mosley
5. Clottey

um short of Mosley he has fought everyone of them and oh looky here he will fight Shane in Jan. I would say going 2-1 against 3 of the top 5 at your division is good enough to be considered.

[ragingvic]

Honestly I dont think you know the fighters you listed but went on to list them anyways or else why wouldn't you tell me why you think they were good wins, well good enough to make Vic's case as to being p4p.

and sorry but these arent tiny details as you say

kirilov DID come off of a draw with a 22-8 fighter right before facing Vic. Kirilov did get a controversial decision in his homeland over Navarro that if it werent for the knockdown would have been a draw. How are those tiny?

Z Gorres doesnt have a name on his resume. Z Gorres is a hometown fighter. How are those tiny?

Pacheco was giving Vic a hard time. There was a ten minute delay. Again how are those tiny details

but go on keep asking a question every time your theories get swatted down

Ill wait

Z gorres beat montiel, who is considered to be the # 2 super fly. It was a draw but he won. Pacheco was ktfo and nevr asked for a rematch, if he was so dominant wtf happened. One of the most signifcant wins on mihares record was navarro, kirilov beat him , close but kirlov won. Mijares dont even make me go there. Satisfied.

[KostyaTszyu44]

As I expected, The Ring ratings left Vic Darchinyan out of the top 10 P4P rankings, even though he defeated the #7 P4P fighter Cristian Mijares.

Instead, they just moved several people up one spot to replace Mijares, and added American fighter Paul Williams. The people voting on the rankings are virtually all Americans.

http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html

I think Vic, who now has three world titles, deserved at least that #10 spot more than Paul Williams, who hasn't had a win over a good fighter except for his controversially close decision over Antonio Margarito.

tunney i think ill have to agree with you there about american bias

no reason why vic, who is the former IBF flyweight champ and current WBC/WBA/IBF superflyweight champ, shouldnt be on the list


and paul williams doesnt deserve to be on there yet

[Eaner0919]

Look mel and eaner as much as im enjoying our conversation right now, i really got to be going. Im not running from the convo and i promise to pick this up with you guys later on. Its fine if you dont think he is p4p, i do, but just dont try to make it seem like the lil fuc*er has been wasting his years in boxing and not beating anybody.

No one said that. All the question posed was why Vic isnt a top ten p4p

I answered. Never said his resume is **** just not good enough to be a top ten guy. Never said anything biased I like the dude.

you guys get way too butt hurt over things critiquing your fighters

[ragingvic]

we can use Margarito since I know his fights more than the others

lets see

Ring Rankings

1. Tony
2. Williams
3. Cotto
4. Mosley
5. Clottey

um short of Mosley he has fought everyone of them and oh looky here he will fight Shane in Jan. I would say going 2-1 against 3 of the top 5 at your division is good enough to be considered.

Hate to break it to you but, kirilov and z gorres were top 5. Mijares and pachecho were number one (pachecho may have been two im not too sure)
I d say goign 4-0 is pretty damw good. Z gorres and Kirlov dropped du to their loses to vic.

[mspiegelo]

wheres chad dawson? not since roy jones has someone at light heavy had the speed of a welterweight and was able to put together combinations in such impressive bursts. he should be AT LEAST top 10, not vic who has yet to avenge a loss where he was completely dominated and then ktfo. props to vic for destroying mijares though. i never thought that would happen and if he can get revenge on nonito, he DEFINATELY deserves to be top 10...

[ragingvic]

wheres chad dawson? not since roy jones has someone at light heavy had the speed of a welterweight and was able to put together combinations in such impressive bursts. he should be AT LEAST top 10, not vic who has yet to avenge a loss where he was completely dominated and then ktfo. props to vic for destroying mijares though. i never thought that would happen and if he can get revenge on nonito, he DEFINATELY deserves to be top 10...

Wait for it this is where eaner comes in and says dawson was so close with johnson that tt was really a loss and tarver was so old it was useless. lol.

[Eaner0919]

Z gorres beat montiel, who is considered to be the # 2 super fly. It was a draw but he won. Pacheco was ktfo and nevr asked for a rematch, if he was so dominant wtf happened. One of the most signifcant wins on mihares record was navarro, kirilov beat him , close but kirlov won. Mijares dont even make me go there. Satisfied.

he didnt beat him.

who said he was dominant? in fact you **** on your own argument about Pacheco by saying that. Post Vic, Irene ****** ass. So again how was this a big name?

Navarro got jobbed and still almost won. Mijares dominated Navarro and almost got jobbed.