Will Miguel Cotto ever be able to clean out a division?

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  • MJ406
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    #41
    yeah official titles or not Marg's came pretty close to cleaning out 147

    holding the WBO belt

    getting the IBF belt from Cintron

    beating current IBF champ Clottey (before he held title back in December of last year)

    and getting WBA belt from Cotto.

    the only negatives for Marg is of course the loss to P-Will.

    **boxrec says Cotto's facing Michael Jennings .. how much truth? or BS rumor?

    and is that Mosley/Margarito fight coming off in January 2009?

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    • CottoIsBackBtch
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      #42
      Originally posted by chicano79us
      Then what does that say about the guys he's beaten? I take it they are less limited??

      You keep saying headbutt, but where is this so called headbutt? At what time of 2-3 rounds this this imaginary headbutt happen?

      Oh it happened alright. The ref acknowledged it and if you weren't drinking tequila during the fight, or refrying beans, you would have seen it.

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      • Mr. Fantastic
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        #43
        Originally posted by CottoIsBackBtch
        Oh it happened alright. The ref acknowledged it and if you weren't drinking tequila during the fight, or refrying beans, you would have seen it.

        Really?? AGAIN, what time did this happen? Quit making **** up and go eat your fucking aroz con gandules or your fried bananas.

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        • Ch@mpBox@PR
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          #44
          Originally posted by chicano79us
          Really?? AGAIN, what time did this happen? Quit making **** up and go eat your fucking aroz con gandules or your fried bananas.
          1:04 of the 3rd Round!!!!!!!. Look when they are trading on the ropes and Margo heabutts Cotto and Cotto quickly start bleeding from the nose. And while he was head butting he Low blowed Cottto twice.!!!
          Last edited by Ch@mpBox@PR; 11-03-2008, 02:14 AM.

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          • JAB5239
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            #45
            Originally posted by warp1432
            Dempsey never cleared his division out. Does he not belong in the HOF?
            Neither did Larry Holmes, Floyd Patterson, Barry McGuigan,
            Ingamar Johansonn among plenty of others. The thread starter is an idiot with a clear agenda.

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            • Mr. Fantastic
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              #46
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
              1:04 of the 3rd Round!!!!!!!. Look when they are trading on the ropes and Margo heabutts Cotto and Cotto quickly start bleeding from the nose. And while he was head butting he Low blowed Cottto twice.!!!
              Dude I saw no headbutt, lowblow yes, but no headbutt. I don't think PRs will ever stop discrediting Margo's win. From steroids to headbutts to lowblows to being bigger and all this other blah blah blah bull****. I wonder what the hell you guys are going to come up with next.

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              • youngswish23
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                #47
                he can when margarito retires!

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                • Ch@mpBox@PR
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by chicano79us
                  Dude I saw no headbutt, lowblow yes, but no headbutt. I don't think PRs will ever stop discrediting Margo's win. From steroids to headbutts to lowblows to being bigger and all this other blah blah blah bull****. I wonder what the hell you guys are going to come up with next.
                  Watch Closely and you will see cottos head snap back while Margaritos hands where low.Thats when the headbutt occured. And about people making excuse, and discrediting margo, well Not me. I understand that he won clearly, and if a guy can make a weight, well , he deserve to fight in that division. But most people make it sound like it was a total blow out, wich it was far from it. Cotto won the first 6 or 7 rounds. And even in the rounds that margo was beating Cotto up, Cotto still was outlanding him. The only thing I said it was A BIG Factor, matter of facts the biggest factor of the fight was Cottos broken nose. He was gas out by the 4th round. Like I said watch Vazquez quitting against Marquez in their first fight because of Vazquez broken nose, and he still went and won the rematch and the 3rd fight. I dont say thats how is going to play out with Cotto-Margarito, but, Most likely it could happend.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by georgenewman
                    I think you contradicted yourself here a bit. The fighters are taller at 154

                    although I do agree with the first statement.

                    He wouldn't clear out 154 though
                    no i do believe he has issues with taller fighters but in my opinion (not completely but for the most part) 154 really lacks talent right now so even with the issues with taller fighters i can see him winning some fights...even a ABC title...

                    maybe not clear it out right away but given time and further training (against such taller fighterS) and he can do it.

                    the problem for cotto (regarding margarito) isnt just that margarito is too tall...its that margarito has an iron chin...endless stamina and endurance...and has an output of 1200+ punches a fight...those are cotto's issues with margarito...

                    a 5'11 judah would have still been knocked out...

                    he does have issues with taller fighters...the difference with margarito is that margarito is an issue for almost any fighter...even someone with the staus of floyd would struggle with margarito...

                    its not that margarito is a great boxer or extremely technically sound...its how relentless he is and the fact you cant hurt him or tire him out...thats where most fighters stuggle with him...even williams struggled towards the end in their fight...

                    cotto doesnt get enough credit on this forum.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
                      Watch Closely and you will see cottos head snap back while Margaritos hands where low.Thats when the headbutt occured. And about people making excuse, and discrediting margo, well Not me. I understand that he won clearly, and if a guy can make a weight, well , he deserve to fight in that division. But most people make it sound like it was a total blow out, wich it was far from it. Cotto won the first 6 or 7 rounds. And even in the rounds that margo was beating Cotto up, Cotto still was outlanding him. The only thing I said it was A BIG Factor, matter of facts the biggest factor of the fight was Cottos broken nose. He was gas out by the 4th round. Like I said watch Vazquez quitting against Marquez in their first fight because of Vazquez broken nose, and he still went and won the rematch and the 3rd fight. I dont say thats how is going to play out with Cotto-Margarito, but, Most likely it could happend.

                      Cotto's head didn't snap back man. It wasn't a total blowout, Cotto won most of the early rounds. As for the bolded part, I hate for you to be a judge, especially when its a PR boxer fighting. Cotto lost the 2nd round ESPECIALLY the 7th. Alot of people seem to forget that body shots count too. As for the broken nose, from what I remember reading, they only treated Cotto for cuts at the hospital after the fight, not a broken nose.

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