Roy Jones Vs. Daruisz M.

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  • Chase8400
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tunney
    Roy ducked Dariusz, the most underrated fighter of all time, for a reason. People here should download his fights from our videos section and watch them, before jumping to the conclusion that Roy would have win.

    I say Dariusz, who fought and defeated many of the same opponents as Roy did, would have a very good chance of beating the glass-jawed American.
    No chance at all. It would have went something like the Woods fight.

    You come over and fight the champ on his land, simple as that. Dariusz would not fight Jones in America. Jones was the recognized name and a 3 weight champion when the fight should have happened. I don't care who was overrated or not. Roy would have whipped Dariusz easily.
    Last edited by Chase8400; 10-31-2008, 08:47 AM.

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    • THE REED
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      #22
      the fact DM had two small wars with richard hall and lost a sd to julio caesar gonzalez... slightly questionable considering, hall and gonzalez didnt win a single solitary round against roy

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      • IMDAZED
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        #23
        Originally posted by Tunney
        He went 48-0 before he was shot and lost his last two fights

        He never got KOed. He lost an MD in his 49th fight, and only in his last fight he lost by TKO. He never lost to anyone called "rocchgiani".

        He easily defeated people like Hill and Griffin (two wins over Toney) in his/their prime.

        Yeah and cheated Rochigianni out of a win in their first fight - a fight where favorite Dariusz was booed hardcore.

        Revisionist history at its finest.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Mr._Pink
          he was shot at the same age roy was 35. oddly enough didn't he lose for the first time around the time tarver beat roy?

          he lost to julio gonzalez , one of roy's victims.

          rocchigiani (sp?) didn't beat dariusz. i think the guy just saw that he succeeded dariusz for the belt so i think that's why the guy thought that.
          Rocchigiani knocked down Michalczewski but the punch was illegal and he was disqualified for it.



          DM would've been one of Roy Jones' tougher opponents, not sure if the fight would've been tough for Roy but Dariusz was better than most of Roy's opposition.

          Roy should've been favoured in the fight because he was far better than anyone Michalzewski ever fought against BUT it doesn't matter since they never fought. Dariusz could've pulled off a "Tarver" for all we know.

          The fight should've happened but the two sides were unfortunately never able to compromise.

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            #25
            Grif never really beat Roy and Hill may have never even landed a punch in the 4 rounds he went with Roy after just going 12 with Daruisz.

            Toney had just came off his first loss to Roy and jumped weight for his first fight with Griff and was having more trouble making weight for the 2nd.

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              #26
              Originally posted by reedickyaluss
              the fact DM had two small wars with richard hall and lost a sd to julio caesar gonzalez... slightly questionable considering, hall and gonzalez didnt win a single solitary round against roy
              Yea, the ignorant/bias people on here don't seem to get it.

              From the news about the Gonzalez fight: See Boxrec.

              "Had Michalczewski won, he would have been the first boxing champion in quite some time to tie Rocky Marciano's record of 49-0. Gonzalez dominated the fight despite the closeness of the scorecards".
              "This bout was a huge upset at the time as most people thought Gonzalez didn't have any chance".
              Retrieved from http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...Cesar_Gonzalez
              Last edited by Chase8400; 10-31-2008, 09:00 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by TheManchine
                Rocchigiani knocked down Michalczewski but the punch was illegal and he was disqualified for it.
                He wasn't disqualified. It was ruled a "draw."

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Chase8400
                  Yea, the ignorant/bias people on here don't seem to get it.

                  From the news about the Gonzalez fight: See Boxrec.

                  "Had Michalczewski won, he would have been the first boxing champion in quite some time to tie Rocky Marciano's record of 49-0. Gonzalez dominated the fight despite the closeness of the scorecards".
                  "This bout was a huge upset at the time as most people thought Gonzalez didn't have any chance".
                  Retrieved from http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph...Cesar_Gonzalez

                  Dariusz was not the same fighter when he fought Gonzalez. In his prime, he probably woulda dropped Julio a couple times and earned a decision IMO.

                  But, on the other hand, prime Dariusz versus prime Jones would've been a decent scrap but I can't see how the Pole would've won more than four rounds against the fleet-footed Roy. And I don't think he'd take those punches either.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by mECHsLAVE
                    The answer is not there. It's: "Roy would have won a tough fight, taking more punishment than he had in any one fight of his career to that date."

                    Dariusz was underrated by the general boxing public, but not by people in boxing and other boxers. Roy knew there was easier money to be made out there, and HBO didn't hold his feet to the fire. So he took the easier money and the criticism. I'm a big Roy fan, and have been for his whole career. That's one missing fight that hurts his legacy.
                    Exactly what he said......Dariusz was underrated as hell!

                    Roy would've beaten him, but there's something inside me tellin me that Dariusz could've stopped Roy.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      He wasn't disqualified. It was ruled a "draw."
                      I'm pretty sure it was a DQ because DM could not have tried to break Marciano's record of 49 straight victories otherwise.

                      http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php...4141&cat=boxer
                      BoxRec lists it as a DQ.

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