Why is Hopkins a "legend"?

[WhoreUs]

He beat Pavlik, Tito, Tarver = He was the underdog in all of them
He beat Glenn Johson undefeated
Winky Wright
Antwun, Mercado, Howard Eastman
DLH isn't even THAT big of a win...

tbh...... it's a very good resume but not really great.

the only thing great about hopkins' resume is how old he was when he beat some of those guys.

pavlik is a good fighter.

tarver is a good fighter.

johnson is a good fighter.

echols , mercado and eastman are solid fighters.

the only true great fighters he beat were winky , tito and oscar. 2 natural welterweights he fought at middleweight and 1 natural super welterweight he fought at light heavyweight.

[BennyST]

You also forget he beat Oscar and Tito in his late 30's even though he was the bigger man.

What do you mean by "..even though he was the bigger man."? That makes no sense mate. One of the reasons he did win was because he was was the bigger man, not in spite of it. He was a massive MW (closer to a natural LHW) fighting guys who were natural WW or less. He won because he was the bigger man.

[El Dominicano]

tbh...... it's a very good resume but not really great.

the only thing great about hopkins' resume is how old he was when he beat some of those guys.

pavlik is a good fighter.

tarver is a good fighter.

johnson is a good fighter.

echols , mercado and eastman are solid fighters.

the only true great fighters he beat were winky , tito and oscar. 2 natural welterweights he fought at middleweight and 1 natural super welterweight he fought at light heavyweight.

Tito a natural WW? When he outweighed B-Hop? When he could no longer make 147?

I laugh because everyone talkz about Tito being a WW but you need to understand B-Hop did NOT beat Tito using his size...He beat him with skillz...never did he (Hatton) Tito.

You also forget Tito K.O'd Joppy...

Something B-Hop gave his all to do and COULDN'T accomplish it

Goes to show Tito had TRUE M.W power

[WhoreUs]

Tito a natural WW? When he outweighed B-Hop? When he could no longer make 147?

I laugh because everyone talkz about Tito being a WW but you need to understand B-Hop did NOT beat Tito using his size...He beat him with skillz...never did he (Hatton) Tito.

You also forget Tito K.O'd Joppy...

Something B-Hop gave his all to do and COULDN'T accomplish it

Goes to show Tito had TRUE M.W power

tito is a natural ww. the fact that he won at sww and mw doesn't change that fact. he carried his power up to 160 but that doesn't make him a natural mw.

wtf does their weigh in weight have to do with anything? oscar and pac will both weigh in around 147 in december. does that make pac a natural welterweight?

joppy was a good fighter but wasn't anything special. just because tito beat him doesn't make tito a natural mw. duran beat barkley at 160 does that make duran a natural mw? 160 was a very weak division during the late 90's and 2000's. holmes who was wbc champion for years at 160 lost his nabf title shot at 154.

[Truth]

heres the thing, its all how you spin it. thats the truth. you can take something and spin negatively(as you choosing to do), or you can spin in positvely. Its all about the spin...


i could spin anyone's career in a negative way or a positive way.

[El Dominicano]

tito is a natural ww. the fact that he won at sww and mw doesn't change that fact. he carried his power up to 160 but that doesn't make him a natural mw.

wtf does their weigh in weight have to do with anything? oscar and pac will both weigh in around 147 in december. does that make pac a natural welterweight?

joppy was a good fighter but wasn't anything special. just because tito beat him doesn't make tito a natural mw. duran beat barkley at 160 does that make duran a natural mw? 160 was a very weak division during the late 90's and 2000's. holmes who was wbc champion for years at 160 lost his nabf title shot at 154.

Look, all I'm saying is Tito weighed more then B-Hop fight night. B-Hop NEVER imposed his size on Tito

Maybe if B-Hop wasn't so overlooked back then...he might have NOT been the underdog...Still ALOT of people pick Tarver, Pavlik and Tito to beat him (Even if you want to call Tito a WW) Tito was undefeated 147/154

I was stil very new to the sport of boxing when B-Hop vs Tito happend...I live in The Bronx and seriously, I knew NO ONE who picked B-Hop to win...

By the way, you think Tito would have beaten every other M.W at the time excpet B-Hop??

[Truth]

"Before Saturday night, some would have argued against Nard’s being considered a great fighter, but I think the manner in which he out-classed a big, strong, young undefeated champion left no doubt in the minds of any knowledgeable boxing fan that Hopkins is more than just one of the best fighters of this era and a future hall of famer. I think everyone can agree that Hopkins is one for the ages."-Doug Fischer from maxboxing

I have to agree with this guy. oh and el dominicano, your right Hopkins out boxed Tito, he didn't out muscle him as far as I remember.

[Dynamite Kid]

Pavlik may not be a great fighter but its how Hopkins turned it back on at the age of 43 when everyone was saying his was done and likely to even get stopped in the fight

Hopkins showed the sign of greatness by overcoming all this and whooping Pavlik and its not the first time he has been write of either

[WhoreUs]

Look, all I'm saying is Tito weighed more then B-Hop fight night. B-Hop NEVER imposed his size on Tito

Maybe if B-Hop wasn't so overlooked back then...he might have NOT been the underdog...Still ALOT of people pick Tarver, Pavlik and Tito to beat him (Even if you want to call Tito a WW) Tito was undefeated 147/154

I was stil very new to the sport of boxing when B-Hop vs Tito happend...I live in The Bronx and seriously, I knew NO ONE who picked B-Hop to win...

By the way, you think Tito would have beaten every other M.W at the time excpet B-Hop??

you don't have to impose size to have a size advantage , el. just being bigger means you can take punches better.

they picked tarver and pavlik because of bernard's age. when jermain beat b-hop everyone thought b-hop was done. same when he looked awful against the italian dragon. tito was understandable. he tore through 154 and joppy like a hurricane.

of course tito would've beat everyone else at mw aside from hopkins. tito was a great fighter and had 160 power. i never said tito wasn't a great win. it's hops best or one of it. winky and oscar however were not great wins.

[El Dominicano]

you don't have to impose size to have a size advantage , el. just being bigger means you can take punches better.

they picked tarver and pavlik because of bernard's age. when jermain beat b-hop everyone thought b-hop was done. same when he looked awful against the italian dragon. tito was understandable. he tore through 154 and joppy like a hurricane.

of course tito would've beat everyone else at mw aside from hopkins. tito was a great fighter and had 160 power. i never said tito wasn't a great win. it's hops best or one of it. winky and oscar however were not great wins.

I know...I never considered DLH, Winky GREAT winz...I also don't see alot of people doing that

Still even if you don't consider DLH, Winky GREAT winz the man is still a legend.

20+ title defenses against serious opposition